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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
    Wow, that's impressive.

    Bush swept Oklahoma, Nebraska, Utah, and Alaska!

    It's been some time since that's been done.

    Not since Reagan.
    Wow, he swept 3 small, poor states and a frozen wasteland! What an accomplishement
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    • Originally posted by Flinx


      What is a county map supposed to show? Over 200,000 more people voted for John Kerry in Los Angeles County than voted for all candidates combined in Montana, Wyoming, North and South Dakota
      Its supposed to show how the dems only have support in those rich, urban, civlized areas, while repug dominate among the hick vote.
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      • The fact is that the USofA is a very religious country. It's one of the main reasons I might want to leave. If New England starts going the way the rest of the country has... I'm outta here. Ya'll can have your fundamentalist ****hole.

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        • And it does not mean politics must give a **** about faith, or make any decisions based on it whatsoever- you seem to have some mental block with this simple concept.
          No, that's not what it's there for. Politicians who are religious ought to make decisions based on their religious principles, just like atheists do for theirs.

          Why should the two be treated differently?
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          • Wow, he swept 3 small, poor states and a frozen wasteland! What an accomplishement
            Juneau, that's nothing to sneeze at.
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            • Originally posted by Harry Tuttle


              Faith based, not faith devoid! Jeez...
              Which gets to the crux of the matter. Bush for all his support from religous fundamentalists has not advanced the idea in any substantial way of theocracy. Instead the suppostion is he uses his religion as a means to give him guidance and steadfastness in his decision making. A trait very sorely lacking in Kerry as his guide apparently throughout his career was political expedience.

              As echoed here many times Bush for all his failings is a known quantity whilst Kerry is/was known for ....... umm... doing whatever advanced Kerry.
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              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


                Juneau that's nothing to sneeze at.
                If you don't like reality, change it! me
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                • Originally posted by GePap


                  Its supposed to show how the dems only have support in those rich, urban, civlized areas, while repug dominate among the hick vote.
                  One does have to question why only the rich areas prefer the party of the common guy?
                  "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

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                  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


                    No, that's not what it's there for. Politicians who are religious ought to make decisions based on their religious principles, just like atheists do for theirs.

                    Why should the two be treated differently?
                    They are not treated differently, so what are you talking about?
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                    • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                      One does have to question why only the rich areas prefer the party of the common guy?
                      Or why Poor areas vote to give the top 2% of income brackets large tax breaks.

                      Red states vote to make blue states richer
                      Blue states vote to give more money to red states

                      Red states win, blue states get richer, red states get poorer...

                      Who is more deluded?
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                      • Gee wow, Considering the exodus from the North to the South of industry in general, who is getting richer and who is getting employed?

                        Hint, think red.
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                        • As for that united states of Canada, why isn't Alberta in Jesusland, along with Saskatchewan?
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                          • Originally posted by DRoseDARs
                            Who's using a crystal ball? F*cking up the country is what the Republicans do.

                            Sure, sure. Are you old enough to remember Carter. Johnson?
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                            • Originally posted by Thucydides
                              I remember reading an earlier quote by Karl Rove that people only come out to vote because of hatred. (I don't have the exact quote, but it's always been part of his tactics anyway). It appears that is exactly what's happened. The majority have voted out of fear and hatred more then anything else. The votes for Terrorism were about fear and the ones about moral values were really about hatred. How else can you explain how someone of such incompetence who has nothing positive to contribute to the US be re-elected?

                              Anyway, everything that Bush has owned has been run into the ground. The US government is no exception. Will just have to wait and see how bad things get in 4 years.
                              Fear and hatred.

                              Tell me that you don't fear and hate Bush?
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                              • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                                Gee wow, Considering the exodus from the North to the South of industry in general, who is getting richer and who is getting employed?

                                Hint, think red.
                                1. The whole US is loosing industry- those jobs head south on their way out- they won't stay long

                                2. Yes, unemployment figures in the south are lower- but so median household incomes, PCI, and school achievement rates- poverty rates are certainly higher.

                                It is a fact that in general, "blue states" are richer- compare Massachussets to Nebraska or Utah.
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                                "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                                "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                                "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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