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  • #91
    The only communist state in the Arab world was North Yemen and that country continues to be filled with raving muslim fundimentalists. The communists government didn't do very well in Afghanistan either.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Oerdin
      Less then 1/5 of the deficit is caused by increased military spending. The other 4/5 is caused by tax cuts, new entitlement spending, and things like the farm subsidies.
      Raising general taxes is not on the table for me, not do the enttitlments seem to be for the Goverment (I could hope, but not expect they could chop some) about all that could go is some of the expesive and ineffectuall homeland defense, and better prioritizing of the war on terror. That is why i said some increase in finacial displine. Most cutting of the defict under such cnostrainst will have to come from increase in the tax base by economic growth, and allowing some specific target tax cuts to expire as their stated ourpose becomes oviated.
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      • #93
        Once again Lefty is one of the sole voices of reason.
        "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

        “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
          Raising general taxes is not on the table for me, not do the enttitlments seem to be for the Goverment (I could hope, but not expect they could chop some) about all that could go is some of the expesive and ineffectuall homeland defense, and better prioritizing of the war on terror. That is why i said some increase in finacial displine. Most cutting of the defict under such cnostrainst will have to come from increase in the tax base by economic growth, and allowing some specific target tax cuts to expire as their stated ourpose becomes oviated.
          Of course, Bush wants permanent tax cuts and to add more tax cuts on top of this. Of course, he wants to increase spending too.

          *sigh*

          -Drachasor
          "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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          • #95
            Is devaluing the dollar also on his agenda?
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            • #96
              Helps exports.
              "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

              “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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              • #97
                Weak dollar
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy


                  No, we Americans don't like what gays are doing (there's a difference), which is detroying the moral character of our nation and thus destroying our nation.
                  Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy


                  No, we Americans don't like what gays are doing (there's a difference), which is INFECTING the MORAL INTEGRITY of our NATION with their EVIL, VILE PRACTICES, thus resulting in the TOTAL COLLAPSE of our GREAT CHRISTIAN REPUBLIC!
                  But we dont have them We just want to purge them. Theres a difference. Seriously!
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                  • #99
                    which is detroying the moral character of our nation and thus destroying our nation.


                    Freedom's a *****, isn't it?

                    isnt it widely noted that Thomas never writes opinions, and usually defers to Scalia?


                    Thomas writes plenty of opinions and has been on the opposite side of Scalia on more than one occasion. Thomas-Scalia pairing has been VERY overexaggerated by the left.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • you guys are still talking about the election?

                      old news

                      move on with your lives

                      I'm actually serious here. I'm not going to stress over whoever is the president. Yeah it sucks for the military who has to do his whim. But it's out of my hands now. I did my duty to get rid of him. But I already have enough depression in my life, I can't be thinking about each individual life lost in Iraq. that **** drags me down.

                      So I will put this behind me and take a lesser interest in politics. Actually before I came here, I really wasn't interested in politics at all.

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                      • The problem is with lack of freedom and democracy that encourages impoverished youth to joint radical organizations that seeks "revenge" against the "external" cause of the poverty. The solution is to bring freedom and democracy to a land bereft of rights and hope.
                        It must be the horror of losing the election that has me somewhat agreeing with Ned. The only trouble is to make sure that the democratic governments that one creates are seen as legitimate, and not as American puppet regimes. It is for this reason that it is important to work with the UN, so it is a broad spectrum of support for regimes (such as is the case in Afghanistan), and not the very limited international support (GB, Poland, Australia) that have lined up behind Iraq.
                        "Remember, there's good stuff in American culture, too. It's just that by "good stuff" we mean "attacking the French," and Germany's been doing that for ages now, so, well, where does that leave us?" - Elok

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                        • Originally posted by Dissident
                          you guys are still talking about the election?

                          old news

                          move on with your lives
                          OMG DID YOU HEAR APPLE IS PUTTING OUT A $5000 VCR OMG OMG!!11!!1

                          I much prefer the election
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                          • One more thing before I leave this thread.

                            How does the president personally affect you? This is a poll question.

                            To tell you the truth, I can't see it. I live my life the same way under Geroge Bush as I did under Clinton. Presidents have very little influence over my life.

                            Yes I do see how it affects other people. Please don't think I'm being selfish. See my Iraqi soldier example above. But I can only depress myself with such matters a finite amount of time. Or I'd go insane with grief.

                            Presidential policies really have no influence over my life, or anyone that I know.

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                            • Originally posted by Smiley
                              Is devaluing the dollar also on his agenda?
                              Increases foregin investment in America.
                              "What did you learn in school today, dear little boy of mine?
                              I learned our government must be strong. It's always right and never wrong,.....that's what I learned in school."
                              --- Tom Paxton song ('63)

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                              • Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
                                Helps exports.
                                It hasn't helped yet. People are still buying from the same old places, like Canada snd China.

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