The OFFICIAL United States Presidential Election Thread! IV

[Ned]

Originally posted by rah


It's easy. Because the competition was perceived as worse. What's so hard to understand about that?
It's the ultimate insult to Kerry.
Instead of making fun of REPUBS for being stupid, you should be making fun of Democrats that thought Kerry was presidential material and voted him to be their candidate.
I would have voted for the Democrat if it had been even a decent candidate. But Kerry, I wouldn't trust him to set policy for walking my dog. And that's why he lost. Too many repubs that didn't really want to vote for bush felt the same way. So the Democrats have to carry the burden also.

This is nonsense. Kerry was the very best Northern Liberal the Dems had. He was tall, smooth, extremely articulate and obviously intelligent. He clearly had a lot of the personal qualities that are necessary to be president.

The Dems did not lose because of Kerry. Most of them know that.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Kaak
well, the realclearpolitics site was right on the money (with the exception of wisconsin)

http://realclearpolitics.com/Preside...unt_Final.html

Very, very, very impressive. How'd they do that? Eliminate bias?

[Harry Tuttle]

Originally posted by Ned
Very, very, very impressive. How'd they do that? Eliminate bias?

I've been watching them for a month now. It's a very good site.

[Lefty Scaevola]

They take every halfway reputable poll they can find and average them.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by GePap


1. The whole US is loosing industry- those jobs head south on their way out- they won't stay long

2. Yes, unemployment figures in the south are lower- but so median household incomes, PCI, and school achievement rates- poverty rates are certainly higher.

It is a fact that in general, "blue states" are richer- compare Massachussets to Nebraska or Utah.

Nice deflect but your point was which area was getting richer. Rate of change.

The red states are going in the black while the blue states are going in the red.

Point is red states vote in self interest to continue to attract jobs. While idiot blue states continue to vote away theirs.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ned


God, I can only wish you freaks would carry out your threats to leave. Why Europe, though. Why not join with your communist fellow-travellers in Cuba or Vietnam?

Because most of us who talk this way (myself included) are not communists.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


Nice deflect but your point was which area was getting richer. Rate of change.

The red states are going in the black while the blue states are going in the red.

Point is red states vote in self interest to continue to attract jobs. While idiot blue states continue to vote away theirs.

Show me evidence that Oklahoma or Kansas or Mississippi are catching up to New Jersey, Connecticutt, or New York, cause otherwise you are just talking out your ass.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Harry Tuttle


Looks like a feeding frenzy at a cannibal thanksgiving. The youth movement looks like it will implode again. I wonder if the College Dems will drop from their purpoted "thousands" of chapters back down to under 500 again?

I really like the post about Dem intellectual saying f*ck you to the lower middle class who they are trying to help and who don't listen to their intellectual superiors.

What arrogance!

[Ned]

Originally posted by MrFun
Elizabeth Edwards told the public today that she was diagnosed with breast cancer.


But John and Elizabeth are both confident she can beat this.

What puzzles me is why the Dems are not touting Edwards as a front runner for '08. All the talk is about Hillary.

And, why not run Kerry again?

[MrFun]

Edwards has very LITTLE support in the South, unfortunately in spite of his roots.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Stefu
A thing to consider: Bushies will probably make a new push for the FMA. With a number of Democratic senators in red states being up to re-election, there will be a considerable temptation for them to vote it, especially considering the strength of the anti-gay marriage vote that represented itself.

Agreed. 80% of Americans seem to support the concept. Politicians are anything but stupid despite what the arrogant left thinks.

[Ned]

Originally posted by MrFun





This what I talked about earlier. In the near future, gays and lesbians might be without any political party.

Mr. Fun, you again are making gay "marriage" a litmus test. I assume from this that domestic partner rights are not sufficient for you or gays in general. Right?

[Ned]

Originally posted by Drachasor


Kerry was viewed as a far-left Liberal (when he is only slightly left of centeR).

-Drachasor

If Kerry was only slightly left, I wonder where the bulk of the Democrat party is today -- radical communism?

[GePap]

This actually is a very interesting study:

http://www.cbpp.org/1-18-00sfp-part3.pdf

In many blue states the difference between poor and rich has grown faster than in the red states.

[Arrian]

If Kerry was only slightly left, I wonder where the bulk of the Democrat party is today -- radical communism?

Only in the Nedaverse. Unfortunately for those of us in the blue states, approximately 51% of America lives in the Nedaverse. Mass delusion really isn't pretty.

-Arrian