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30% Trump, 28% Hillary, 29% McMullin (who??? Lol). Johnson doesn't really register. If Trump loses, its a few more electoral votes lost. Would be interesting to see McMillin win as Hillary doesn't need the state based on current projections. Hillary does have support in Salt Lake City... And if she pulls off an upset, it will be by a plurality. Crazy state.
In other words, it is Trump's to lose. Utah a swing state... Who would have thought. The polling data is pretty wild though. I think McMullin is gaining more than previously thought.
Last edited by Giancarlo; October 17, 2016, 11:48.
Reason: Percentages fixed.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
if you want to make up more BS or Lies about Hillary, start a new thread. If you want to think you are God and make claims on who is a Catholic or not, start a new thread. If you want to ignore the Pope and claim you are a better Catholic, start a new thread.
Is that clear.
So Hillary's statements regarding Catholicism are off-limits in an election thread? WOW.
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There needs to be a Catholic Spring, in which Catholics themselves demand the end of a Middle Ages dictatorship and the beginning of a little democracy and respect for gender equality in the Catholic church.
Wow, such accommodating language. Thank you Hillary Clinton! Champion of Catholics around the world.
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so julian assange's internet was cut off today by a 'state actor', which has sparked all kinds of rumours about what might be happening with him. funnily enough all this occurred after he started releasing emails exposing hillary clinton's and the democratic party's shady dealings.
"The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton
It's rather unnerving how tensions with Russia keep ratcheting up, to so little attention. The dirt on Hillary has a rather low signal-noise ratio, and certainly doesn't warrant this level of chest-thumping with a nuclear power.
I'm also not terribly fond of the way we're beating the piss out of Yemen. Apparently because they receive some support from Iran, and the crazy theocrats in Iran are our enemies while the somewhat crazier theocrats in Saudi Arabia are our friends, and when your friend needs you, you give him a metric ****ton of high explosives to drop indiscriminately on populated areas as part of an ongoing penis-measuring contest.
So Hillary's statements regarding Catholicism are off-limits in an election thread? WOW.
Quotes.. Or gtfo.
BTW still waiting for the quotes where she would abolish the Church.
Last edited by Giancarlo; October 17, 2016, 15:15.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
I'm also not terribly fond of the way we're beating the piss out of Yemen. Apparently because they receive some support from Iran, and the crazy theocrats in Iran are our enemies while the somewhat crazier theocrats in Saudi Arabia are our friends, and when your friend needs you, you give him a metric ****ton of high explosives to drop indiscriminately on populated areas as part of an ongoing penis-measuring contest.
And now we're directly involved. Yay.
yeah, yemen is a rather complicated story. i think i wrote a lengthy post about it some time ago. iran has very little to do with it, btw (in reality, i mean - it's crucial to the propaganda effort).
"The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton
It's rather unnerving how tensions with Russia keep ratcheting up, to so little attention. The dirt on Hillary has a rather low signal-noise ratio, and certainly doesn't warrant this level of chest-thumping with a nuclear power.
It is just penis waving by Czar Putin. The emails amount to nothing. Also I'd be careful with them anyways. There is no way to verify they are even real... Or doctored.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
BK's Catholic Spring quote is from a leaked e-mail from a liberal Jewish Clinton staff member to John Podesta (who is at least nominally Catholic) circa 2011. Podesta replied that they'd started some Catholic social groups specifically to take advantage of opportunities to that general end, but that it hadn't panned out and nothing would likely come of it. Another leaked e-mail chain features some rather vicious comments on Catholicism from Clinton staff, but AFAIK Clinton herself hasn't been caught saying anything beyond "traditional religious attitudes regarding abortion, etc. need to change."
It's rather unnerving how tensions with Russia keep ratcheting up, to so little attention. The dirt on Hillary has a rather low signal-noise ratio, and certainly doesn't warrant this level of chest-thumping with a nuclear power.
yes, indeed. some of the actions of the US administration are hard to fathom. i suppose some of it is just compensation for the continuing failure of american policy in syria, but it's very irresponsible in my view. foreign policy is actually the main reason for my backing trump. hillary is a proven warmonger and has called for a more 'muscular', i.e. interventionist, US policy in the middle east.
"The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton
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