Unofficial Apolyton Predicts

[Ming]

Right. Must change. And just how is she going to enforce that when we tell her no way in hell?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Again, please provide a quote instead of just being a paranoid fool and jerking off to Catholic zealot websites.
You are just making stuff up as usual with no support except bad opinions.

Many people think (even Catholics) that antiquated attitudes must change. So she isn't alone on this. But, one more time, please find a quote where she claims she wants to abolish the Catholic Church... Oh, that's right, you can't... you simply made it up.

[C0ckney]

[Elok]

You fail to grasp a whole lot of things. I'm pretty sure Lincoln would look at the republican party today with disgust and contempt.

Your issue is you try to act smart, but you fall miserably short. You then try to say "oh but I didn't really mean that"... Is your last name Trump?

Again, please explain your BAM logic. Were you under the impression that I thought Democrats still supported segregation, and thus your response is supposed to mean, "OOOH BUT THEY LATER CHANGED POLICIES SO THAT'S INVALID"? This would require me to not know, among many other things, who has been in the White House for the past eight years, which doesn't work since I've alluded to Obama by name several times in your presence. So it would seem to be a fairly idjit thing to say on your part. But I can't parse it any other way.

[C0ckney]

It's fairly typical for the most extreme, bat**** insane elements of society to be the youngest, right? Or is it just our era that's like this?

partly, but it's also partly because a lot of trump's support has things in common with european nationalists, more specifically the nouvelle droite. whereas in the UK nationalism is an old man's game, in europe nationalists and identitarians tend to be young; in france, for example, the front national is the most popular party among first-time voters, and this pattern is repeated elsewhere on the continent. it's rooted in a rejection of the 'may 68 consensus', of socialism, of the european union, of the idea that muslims and africans can ever europeans, but also of free market capitalism and globalisation. trump's populist and nationalist programme shares many of these ideas, and it appeals to similar groups of people who have been affected by the same forces.

[Aeson]

Trump's support is mostly older. Hillary has her own problems with younger voters, but nothing like Trump.

[C0ckney]

yes, that's true, but of course young people have historically backed the democratic candidate in greater numbers.

an interesting comparison can be made with the 2012 results.

[Giancarlo]

Looking at the radical shifts of both Giancarlo and Kidicious, I'm beginning to suspect that, at least on Apolyton, partisanship is a conserved quantity. If that's the case, there must be some special symmetry about political cyberspace which governs it. /me finds an envelope and turns it over.

I got laid. That is why I am so left wing.

[Giancarlo]

Stephen Harper. I have in the past both supported and not supported Harper. I liked him for some things, but overall, he was to my left. As I'm sure you'd know if you knew anything about the political right in Canada, which you don't.

Harper... Oh yes. Bush clone. The fact is Canadians learned quickly Harper was a moron. And Justin Trudeau looks mighty fine (and governs well too). I liked those pictures of Trudeau at pride marches.

Uh, I never said anything of the sort. Feel free to quote what I actually said.

You said black men are more likely to steal. That is what you said.

Right, and it has nothing to do with the fact that the Democrat nominee has stated that she wants to abolish the Catholic church should we continue to teach that homosexuality is a sin. We have nothing to worry about...

Where did she say that? I want direct quotations. I will be waiting.

[Giancarlo]

Trump's support is mostly older. Hillary has her own problems with younger voters, but nothing like Trump.

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She oddly seems to be doing better among older voters than Obama.

She is up 10% (4 way) and 11% (2 way) in a new national poll by NBC/Wall Street journal. It appears the volatility in polling is subsiding. This can't come at a worse time for Dumpster.

Also she is up +6% in Nevada and a devastating +15% in Virginia. She is doing better in many state polling than Obama did in 2012. She may make up for some lesser support of younger votes, by performing better with older voters. One of her own bases of support in the primaries was with older voters (besides from women and minorities). Women are also where she has a gigantic advantage... Women don't tend to like men who think they can do whatever they want.

The polling shows she is also making inroads with white voters, even white males. Trumps advantage there is evaporating.

[C0ckney]

Looking at the radical shifts of both Giancarlo and Kidicious, I'm beginning to suspect that, at least on Apolyton, partisanship is a conserved quantity. If that's the case, there must be some special symmetry about political cyberspace which governs it. /me finds an envelope and turns it over.

i actually think that gian never gave up being a fascist. he merely decided that the surest way to discredit the left-wing cause was to become an advocate for it.

[Giancarlo]

Again, please explain your BAM logic. Were you under the impression that I thought Democrats still supported segregation, and thus your response is supposed to mean, "OOOH BUT THEY LATER CHANGED POLICIES SO THAT'S INVALID"? This would require me to not know, among many other things, who has been in the White House for the past eight years, which doesn't work since I've alluded to Obama by name several times in your presence. So it would seem to be a fairly idjit thing to say on your part. But I can't parse it any other way.

Okay Donald... Whatever you say. You are always right.

The dems had a paradigm shift decades ago. Look it up. This is my field. I am not doing any sort of BAMs. I have posted tons of links and articles.

[Giancarlo]

i actually think that gian never gave up being a fascist. he merely decided that the surest way to discredit the left-wing cause was to become an advocate for it.

No. I gave up those views as they were without basis and evidence. I went to college and figured things out on my own. Now you can keep making this personal... But that isn't my issue.

Maybe we should organize some sort of gathering and you can see what I really am like. I'm also quite an environmentalist, and that is one area I have a bit of unease with Hillary on. I hope she will deliver in that area after I vote for her. If I was in that second debate, I would have asked about environmental policy. Donald wouldn't know how to answer that, but Hillary would. Her somewhat close ties to big businesses makes me a bit wary.

If you think I am lockstep with her, think again. She has my support overall though. It isn't a 100% agreement. Probably closer to 75-80%. I am one of those aged 25-35 who support her, where she does have comparable support as Obama. 25-35 year olds also tend to vote more reliably than 18-24 year olds.

[Giancarlo]

Right. Must change. And just how is she going to enforce that when we tell her no way in hell?

Um she says they should change. It doesn't mean she is going to force them to change. You really are a stupid thing.

It was a suggestion to get with the times. Start treating people like me with some respect for who we are... For a change. By the way, even the Pope said this.

[C0ckney]

Now you can keep making this personal... But that isn't my issue.

sorry gian, but you don't get to spend several pages calling people names and swearing at them and then complain about 'making it personal'.

[Giancarlo]

sorry gian, but you don't get to spend several pages calling people names and swearing at them and then complain about 'making it personal'.

That was very much deserved. And I didn't spend several pages doing that. Grow up. You don't know anything me.