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  • Any way of actually proving the validity of the emails? Because many emails leaked were possibly doctored.

    Emails being leaked are impossible to prove as valid.

    There is now definitive proof that the Russians hackers have been doctoring the emails, being sent and then leaked by WikiLeaks. The emails were hacked from the Democratic National Convention and t…
    Last edited by Giancarlo; October 17, 2016, 17:02.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
      Any way of actually proven the validity of the emails? Because many emails leaked were doctored.
      is there any way you could write your posts in good english? if you want to back up your claim, then feel free.

      oh yes, great edit there, a blog post from goodness know who, compelling stuff. everyone admits that john podesta's emails were hacked, including the man himself. your link makes accusations, not about the original wikileaks dumps themselves, but about russian news organisations providing fake ones that look similar. well OK, but anyone can check the emails at the wikileaks site. the link to that one is there on the email. it's a classic attempt to muddy the waters by people who've been caught with their pants down.
      Last edited by C0ckney; October 17, 2016, 17:11.
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      • Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
        is there any way you could write your posts in good english? if you want to back up your claim, then feel free.

        oh yes, great edit there, a blog post from goodness know who, compelling stuff. everyone admits that john podesta's emails were hacked, including the man himself. your link makes accusations, not about the original wikileaks dumps themselves, but about russian news organisations providing fake ones that look similar. well OK, but anyone can check the emails at the wikileaks site. the link to that one is there on the email. it's a classic attempt to muddy the waters by people who've been caught with their pants down.
        I edited one word, whereas you are too lazy to edit anything. Your grammar is garbage. I thought you were done getting trashed?

        There is nothing in the emails that is incriminating or even the slightest bit embarrassing. Get over it, Trump boi. The emails don't prove **** nor can they be verified for accuracy.

        Lazy ****.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • Let's try this again. Go find me a bombshell. So far I am seeing benign crap that can't be shown as valid. And wikileaks is hardly a source or credible. We know why Assange is hiding. Trump and him view women in much the same way.

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          A raid this month seized 45,000 voter registration applications, most of them from black voters.


          This is an example of a bombshell story. Not something about an uncorroborated email.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • traditional religious attitudes regarding abortion, etc. need to change."
            Actually my comment was a question. How exactly does Hillary plan to enforce her diktat on the Catholic church. There's a big different between 'ought' and 'must'. There's also a big difference between a disgraced former SoS saying Must and the president of the United States saying must.

            If anything, it's a massive gaffe.
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            • Again... please post where she said she wanted to abolish the Church.
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              • "We must abolish all churches.", Hillary Clinton (BK's dream, Aug. 4, 2016)
                There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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                • Originally posted by Ming View Post
                  Again... please post where she said she wanted to abolish the Church.
                  We'll be waiting until hell freezes over hahahahahah!
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • Impact of the benign emails... 0%.

                    Not a dent on Hillary. Four polls today from 8-12% nationally. And Rasmussen is +2% lol.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • I don't know how you can support Trump over Hillary on warmongering. Hillary is a hawk, but so is Trump. And in most specific cases Trump has so far been admonishing Obama/Hillary for not being more aggressive militarily.

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                      • I get the distinct impression that Trumpists could stage an honest-to-god insurrection, charging through the streets with guns out, throwing pipe bombs, and slitting throats in beds Viet Cong style, and GC would be standing on the barricades against them, haughtily pointing to poll figures clearly showing that most Americans do not favor a violent Trumpist overthrow of democracy.

                        "LOL even Rasmussen shows that 68% of white males in this state don't want to murder Mexicans in their beds (unless they're queer Mexicans), and that's Rasmussen, and white males are your most favorable demographic so you might as well AAAAAA DAMMIT I'VE BEEN GUTSHOT . . . ooooohh god it hurts . . . ohhhhhhhh . . . argggh . . . please use . . . the last seeping dregs . . . of my life's blood . . . as ink for . . . a snarky op-ed about . . . population . . . growth . . . trends . . ."
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                        • Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                          I don't know how you can support Trump over Hillary on warmongering. Hillary is a hawk, but so is Trump. And in most specific cases Trump has so far been admonishing Obama/Hillary for not being more aggressive militarily.
                          hillary has voted for wars and has actually played a part in the resulting disasters.

                          to take a single example, though there is no shortage, trump wants to deescalate tension with russia. that means radically changing the failed and frankly insane US policy in syria. hillary, on the other hand, wants to turn tension with russia up to 11.
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                          • Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
                            hillary has voted for wars and has actually played a part in the resulting disasters.

                            to take a single example, though there is no shortage, trump wants to deescalate tension with russia. that means radically changing the failed and frankly insane US policy in syria. hillary, on the other hand, wants to turn tension with russia up to 11.
                            Trump has supported active invasions of Libya and Syria. He wanted soldiers on the ground in both nations.

                            Stop lying. And deescalate tension with a hostile nation like Russia? Oh please. Russia is attacking the institutions of the US and you expect us to deescalate? Trump is super corrupt too... shall I go back to that? He is in the pocket of Putin and Putin is not someone to handle with kid gloves. Open your ****ing eyes. Russia is the one engaging in aggression. They invaded a sovereign country, but we're supposed to deescalate and show weakness? Bravo. That's about the stupidest thing I've heard from you all day.

                            Your unsupported lies aren't amusing.
                            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                            • Originally posted by Elok View Post
                              *bull**** snipped*
                              I removed the bull**** from this post.

                              Unfortunately there was no material to leave a response for... oops.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • Trump's only sane position is on Russia, but he lacks the geopolitical insight to avoid doing something to cause a major conflict. For instance, his calls to "surround ISIS" would mean invading Syria ... which Russia isn't going to accept, and even if they did back down would likely lead to "friendly fire" incidents that cause a major crisis.

                                Trump hasn't had a chance to do what he says he's going to do, of course. But you have to assume he'd do what he's saying he's going to do. Otherwise you're just making stuff up.

                                Trump on killing the families of terrorists:

                                Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump asserted on Wednesday that the only way to defeat ISIS was to kill their families.“I like to do one thing at a...

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                                Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump says he would pursue the families of terrorists who do not report their relatives to the police. Trump admit...


                                Trump on his love affair with torture, "We should go much stronger than waterboarding":



                                Trump lying about what his stance was on Libya, and his stance on Libya back when it would have mattered:

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                                Trump would "bomb the **** out of them" (very often used line) and then annex the oil in Iraq:



                                ISIS doesn't control the oil in Libya, but Trump doesn't know that. So is he going to take the oil in Libya too?

                                Trump claimed in a foreign policy speech that ISIS is "making millions" from selling Libyan oil. Problem is ISIS doesn't control any Libyan oil.Transcript:"A...


                                "Put a ring around them [with US troops]" and then give the oil to US companies.



                                "People don't know this about Iraq" The guy is an absolute moron to think Iraq's oil is somehow a secret. "To the victors belong the spoils", advocating annexation again.



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                                Hillary is devious and a hawk. But Trump's positions are more interventionist and even go so far as annexation (at least of the oil). Hillary may be tough on Russia, but Trump will blunder into a ****storm because he is a fool, has no idea about the consequences of his policies will be, and doesn't back down from anything even when he's clearly wrong.

                                Supporting Rand Paul, Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein(? not sure), or Johnson (he may not even know what Iraq is) makes sense if you want US interventions to stop.

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