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  • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
    I said only amazingly dumb people get to get pneumonia not that is zero.

    bloomberg is a piece of **** btw

    has predicted that we're out of the euro 10 times in the past. on par with FT
    You don't know what you are talking about.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
      anyway you measure it, the study is eye watering wrong
      Because? You say so?
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • logic says so
        plain old logic

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        • Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
          That's not true either. The system may have its problems, but free and/or cheap clinics offering basic to intermediate benefits are available. And many states provide free health care for those who make below a specific income margin.

          Greece has seen a massive depression in recent years which led to the healthcare budget cut drastically.

          Our healthcare system, while problematic and inconsistent, is still better than that of Greece
          excuse me while I bust a chop laughing having open heart sergury for 0 bucks

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          • (which I didn't but I could if I wanted and I don't)

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            • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
              excuse me while I bust a chop laughing having open heart sergury for 0 bucks
              How could you when all the best doctors in your country have been fired and/or left the country for better pursuits? You even see this in the Philippines. Many of their best doctors and nurses leave the country for better pay elsewhere... Especially with the nutcase they have in power now.

              All the civil services in your country have been cut dramatically. It is a wonder your country even functions now.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • the US is famous for 3 things

                _its gun violence
                _the attrocious way in which it handles healthcare
                _its religious fanatism

                (I said the bad)

                it's true and you have a massive point about how depression and the nazis tried to kill us all but they failed.

                while the healthcare system has suffered greatly it still manages. that's because we kicked the neoliberals out and diverted resources there. it still is in a considerable worse state than it was in say 2006 when it was judged better than the UK's (for comparison)

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                • Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
                  How could you when all the best doctors in your country have been fired and/or left the country for better pursuits?
                  Oh not that sad tale again.

                  the whatever docs that left did so to get payed 1000 euros working for immigrant centers in germany because they couldn't find a job

                  I trust you don't believe all the bull****

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                  • As for "only amazingly dumb people get to get pneumonia" ... you are amazingly dumb to say that. So I hope you don't get pneumonia.

                    Pneumonia is something a healthy person can get without warning. It is even possible to have pneumonia without realizing you have it (little to no symptoms) and be a carrier. The idea that you can only get pneumonia by neglecting to get treatment for a cold or the flu is as stupid as your claim that pneumonia is "non existant" in Greece.

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                    • Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
                      You don't know what you are talking about.
                      but they did.
                      bloomberg and FT have a manic obsession (some of the people there)
                      it's rather entertaining

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                      • Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                        As for "only amazingly dumb people get to get pneumonia" ... you are amazingly dumb to say that. So I hope you don't get pneumonia.

                        Pneumonia is something a healthy person can get without warning. It is even possible to have pneumonia without realizing you have it (little to no symptoms) and be a carrier. The idea that you can only get pneumonia by neglecting to get treatment for a cold or the flu is as stupid as your claim that pneumonia is "non existant" in Greece.
                        really?

                        you walk on the street and you get pneumonia?
                        no tell signs whatsoever?


                        you learn something new every day

                        you're kinda stupid

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                        • I think if you're uninsured in the US you just don't go check your cold and that's how you get pneumonia

                          that's pretty much rational

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                          • Theoretically yes, you can get pneumonia just walking on the street. It is unlikely, but possible. The risk increases when in confined places with someone already infected, whether they display symptoms or not. There are also risk factors such as other illnesses, genetics, stress, age, etc.

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                            • You are ignorant of a wide array of ways in which people get pneumonia. While ignoring a primary infection does increase the risk, it is by no means the only way in which to get pneumonia.

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                              • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder View Post
                                the US is famous for 3 things

                                _its gun violence
                                _the attrocious way in which it handles healthcare
                                _its religious fanatism

                                (I said the bad)

                                it's true and you have a massive point about how depression and the nazis tried to kill us all but they failed.

                                while the healthcare system has suffered greatly it still manages. that's because we kicked the neoliberals out and diverted resources there. it still is in a considerable worse state than it was in say 2006 when it was judged better than the UK's (for comparison)
                                The US may have plenty of problems, but to claim Greece is in better shape is a joke. Your healthcare system is near collapse. It isn't being managed well nor is your government managing anything well. And yes, I as a leftist am criticizing your government. I think they are incompetent to the core.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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