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  • #121
    Originally posted by rah View Post
    I doubt what she has gone through compares to what McCain did.
    I don't think she's being underestimated, she's being questioned.
    One is good, the other is bad.
    Bad timing for her. But unless something else happens, this will forgotten by November. But if something else happens it could stick.

    This latest episode just narrow her margin for error when it comes to this issue.
    I think this happened to early in a race full of drama and twists. Trump could sink himself with his mouth.

    I do think she is being underestimated and I think we will see that in November. She is running a low key, albeit high mobilization and high registration campaign. Mr Orange Hair is running a high visibility campaign, though with very poor ground efforts.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #122
      Actually she's in a no-win perception wise.
      She wins by a lot and people go, of course you did, it was Trump.
      She wins but not handily, that's the best she could do against the worst candidate ever.
      She loses, and is the laughing stock for generations for come.
      It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
      RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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      • #123
        Originally posted by rah View Post
        Bad timing for her. But unless something else happens, this will forgotten by November. But if something else happens it could stick.

        This latest episode just narrow her margin for error when it comes to this issue.
        Falling, or even worse fainting, in the debates would be a nail in the coffin. If I were in Trump's team and wanted to be underhanded I'd get some supporters with colds and flu try and shake her hand a few days before.
        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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        • #124
          Damn, how bad is your healthcare system if even someone like Hillary can get pneumonia?
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          • #125
            Originally posted by rah View Post
            Actually she's in a no-win perception wise.
            She wins by a lot and people go, of course you did, it was Trump.
            She wins but not handily, that's the best she could do against the worst candidate ever.
            She loses, and is the laughing stock for generations for come.
            I think it will be in between 1 and 2. Not resoundingly, but by a solid margin. If the dems pull off a shock in Texas with their mass registration drive we may see a bigger margin of a win.

            It seems like the democrats are pushing more of a political machine type of campaign. It could very well pay off.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #126
              Originally posted by onodera View Post
              Damn, how bad is your healthcare system if even someone like Hillary can get pneumonia?
              Better than yours.

              Pneumonia is not uncommon. Even young healthy people have been known to contract it.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #127
                Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
                I think it will be in between 1 and 2. Not resoundingly, but by a solid margin. If the dems pull off a shock in Texas with their mass registration drive we may see a bigger margin of a win.

                It seems like the democrats are pushing more of a political machine type of campaign. It could very well pay off.
                Well when your candidate is as bad as Hillary is, that's all you can do. They're fortunate that shes running against someone worse.
                It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                • #128
                  Originally posted by rah View Post
                  Well when your candidate is as bad as Hillary is, that's all you can do. They're fortunate that shes running against someone worse.
                  I think it is more machine politics this time and simply getting people out to vote for the party. That is what is happening in Texas, Georgia and even Mississippi. Mass registration drives.

                  She isn't bad. Decent. But not great either. I don't think she has to be awesome, with the groundwork that is going on right now. She also has out raised Trump in fundraising substantially... Again, that could be part of the political machine.

                  I think she will be a competent and adequate President however.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #129
                    You have considerably lower standards than I do.
                    But it's only my opinion.

                    But yes, the party will win due to more/better effort.

                    In all honesty, I could probably win with that support.
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                    RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                    • #130
                      Originally posted by rah View Post
                      You have considerably lower standards than I do.
                      But it's only my opinion.

                      But yes, the party will win due to more/better effort.

                      In all honesty, I could probably win with that support.
                      Um not exactly. I guess we see things differently.

                      But to add.. I think Trump has fueled registration for the democrats. I think the polls we are seeing fail to take that into account.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #131
                        Ir it's polls of registered voters than yes, they are taken into account.
                        At least my company is including them.
                        It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                        RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                        • #132
                          Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
                          Better than yours.

                          Pneumonia is not uncommon. Even young healthy people have been known to contract it.
                          Pneumonia is ****ing rare in civilized countries. You go to the doc before you develop it, get your paid sick leave, stay in bed and nurse your bronchitis or whatever back to health.
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                          • #133
                            Pneumonia is actually quite common.

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                            • #134
                              It's very rare (where I come from)
                              You have to be a bit dumb to get it.
                              You get a cold you go to the doctor. (free)
                              It's a virus?
                              Nothing but some minor harmless drugs.
                              It's an infection? antibiotics (20% contribution around 3 euros? maybe I'm saying too much). Done.
                              No pneumonia

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                              • #135
                                I can only find rates per country inc influenza, but I t looks like the death rate (per 1000 people, not cases) from pneumonia/influenza is about 2 times higher in Greece and Russia than in the US

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