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  • #106
    Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
    I don't agree at all. And questions remain about his mental health. I'm not buying it.
    What you are buying doesn't really matter... Who's health is in the news right now... who is the one passing out.
    You can choose to have the "OPINION" that Trump's health is worse, but it is simply an opinion. And right now, the press is jumping all over Hillary, not Trump.
    Keep on Civin'
    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    • #107
      Originally posted by Aeson View Post
      It's probably better for her to be in the news for her health than for emails/foundation stuff.
      you may be right. however, i read on the interwebs that wikileaks plans to release lots more e-mails over the next two months, so it seems that they may be back in the news before long, especially if anything juicy comes out.
      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

      "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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      • #108
        Originally posted by Ming View Post
        What you are buying doesn't really matter... Who's health is in the news right now... who is the one passing out.
        You can choose to have the "OPINION" that Trump's health is worse, but it is simply an opinion. And right now, the press is jumping all over Hillary, not Trump.
        I don't really care. You can choose to have an opinion too.

        And from what I have seen in the press, many doctors said this could have happened to anyone with a schedule like what she has. She is on the campaign trail more than Trump and has worked intensively on the ground. Some criticize her for not having big rallies and not campaigning "hard enough". What she is doing is more face to face meet and greet and that has its risks.

        Doctors: Pneumonia is serious but Clinton should bounce back
        https://www.yahoo.com/news/doctors-pneumonia-serious-clinton-bounce-back-001429960--politics.html
        NEW YORK (AP) — Hillary Clinton's diagnosis of pneumonia is a serious concern, but something from which she soon should recover, several doctors and medical experts said Sunday.


        A presidential candidate is at high risk for such an infection, said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious disease expert at Vanderbilt University.

        “Candidates are constantly out in enclosed spaces, face to face with myriads of people,” he said. “It’s an ideal opportunity for the transmission of a respiratory virus.”

        Added Dr. Stephen Hargarten, head of emergency medicine at the Medical College of Wisconsin: “I’m not surprised to hear this happen to someone engaged in the kind of frenetic schedule she has.”
        It appears the press isn't jumping all over as you claim. In fact there are quite a few defending her.
        Last edited by Giancarlo; September 12, 2016, 09:47. Reason: Typo
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #109
          Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
          you may be right. however, i read on the interwebs that wikileaks plans to release lots more e-mails over the next two months, so it seems that they may be back in the news before long, especially if anything juicy comes out.
          I suspect much of nothing. And it is getting close already and they still haven't released anything.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #110
            Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
            I don't really care. You can choose to have an opinion too.
            Not an opinion... a fact. There are more stories about Hillary's health than Trumps.

            And from what I have seen in the press, many doctors said this could have happened to anyone with a schedule like what she has. She is on the campaign trail more than Trump and has worked intensively on the ground. Some criticize her for not having big rallies and not campaigning "hard enough". What she is doing is more face to face meet and greeting and that has its risks.

            Doctors: Pneumonia is serious but Clinton should bounce back
            https://www.yahoo.com/news/doctors-pneumonia-serious-clinton-bounce-back-001429960--politics.html
            NEW YORK (AP) — Hillary Clinton's diagnosis of pneumonia is a serious concern, but something from which she soon should recover, several doctors and medical experts said Sunday.


            It appears the press isn't jumping all over as you claim. In fact there are quite a few defending her.
            Yeah... a bunch of the press outlets are defending her, but many aren't.
            Even with the sites that are falling all over themselves to defend her, it's still another site talking about her health.
            They aren't talking about Trump's health.
            Keep on Civin'
            RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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            • #111
              Originally posted by Ming View Post
              Not an opinion... a fact. There are more stories about Hillary's health than Trumps.



              Yeah... a bunch of the press outlets are defending her, but many aren't.
              Even with the sites that are falling all over themselves to defend her, it's still another site talking about her health.
              They aren't talking about Trump's health.
              Many are defending her and some aren't. I can think of one that isn't. The same one where a boss got in trouble for sexually harassing female employees.

              The point is this infection is an unfortunate occurrence that happens to younger people too. That is the point she needs to drive home. It can even happen with someone in their younger years with great health. It isn't uncommon.

              She needs to drive home the fact that her campaign has been very intense and time consuming, leaving little time to even rest.

              The last point is will this hurt her in the race? I personally don't think so at all. Just like her comment on half of Trump supporters (speaking the truth!).
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #112
                Originally posted by Giancarlo View Post
                Many are defending her and some aren't. I can think of one that isn't. The same one where a boss got in trouble for sexually harassing female employees.
                Fox isn't the only one... so try discrediting all of them.

                The point is this infection is an unfortunate occurrence that happens to younger people too. That is the point she needs to drive home. It can even happen with someone in their younger years with great health. It isn't uncommon.

                She needs to drive home the fact that her campaign has been very intense and time consuming, leaving little time to even rest.
                If she can't survive the campaign, how is she going to survive being president
                Trying to blame this on the intense and time consuming campaign, and little rest is probably not the best idea.
                My PR experience leads me to believe she is better off just saying it's a common infection and leaving it at that. Any talk that the campaign trail has been hard on her is not the story that should be coming out of her camp.
                Keep on Civin'
                RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                • #113
                  Yeah look what 8 years did to Obama's hair.
                  IT's a stressful job so I agree she shouldn't be claiming it's the stress of the campaign.
                  It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                  RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                  • #114
                    Originally posted by Ming View Post
                    Fox isn't the only one... so try discrediting all of them.



                    If she can't survive the campaign, how is she going to survive being president
                    Trying to blame this on the intense and time consuming campaign, and little rest is probably not the best idea.
                    My PR experience leads me to believe she is better off just saying it's a common infection and leaving it at that. Any talk that the campaign trail has been hard on her is not the story that should be coming out of her camp.
                    I did say its common that can even strike down a healthy person. And they pretty much are already doing that. Now she needs Trump to say something stupid to divert the attention back to him (not in a good way). Shouldn't be long.

                    Your idea is probably better than mine. You are right.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • #115
                      Too late now, but couldn't she have used an 'overcome with grief' type of line? Wouldn't that have played well at a 9/11 memorial? Or doesn't the ceremony carry the same impact it used too?
                      There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.

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                      • #116
                        Originally posted by rah View Post
                        Yeah look what 8 years did to Obama's hair.
                        IT's a stressful job so I agree she shouldn't be claiming it's the stress of the campaign.
                        People often say that the office ages people, but then so does the simple passage of time. How much impact is down simply to the role of office, compared to whatever everyday **** people stress out and age over.
                        One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                        • #117
                          Originally posted by Dauphin View Post
                          People often say that the office ages people, but then so does the simple passage of time. How much impact is down simply to the role of office, compared to whatever everyday **** people stress out and age over.
                          Well on the other hand she has had to put up with 30 years of republican abuse... 11 hour hearings, being called every name in the book, insulted, defamed, etc. Considering all that crap, she doesn't look too bad.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #118
                            I doubt those equate to being president.
                            And if you think she doesn't look too bad, just more proof that you prefer men over women.
                            (sorry, couldn't resist)
                            It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                            RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                            • #119
                              Originally posted by rah View Post
                              I doubt those equate to being president.
                              And if you think she doesn't look too bad, just more proof that you prefer men over women.
                              (sorry, couldn't resist)
                              If I was put through the crap she gets, I would probably have had a stroke or heart attack. She is being underestimated right now because of this unfortunate incident. She has this ability to surprise people when they least expect it.

                              She is traveling more than the Rolling Stones right now. Same age lol.
                              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                              • #120
                                I doubt what she has gone through compares to what McCain did.
                                I don't think she's being underestimated, she's being questioned.
                                One is good, the other is bad.
                                Bad timing for her. But unless something else happens, this will forgotten by November. But if something else happens it could stick.

                                This latest episode just narrow her margin for error when it comes to this issue.
                                It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                                RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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