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  • #871
    If you are interested in electoral honesty, try to bring up something credible and not a crackpot like OKeefe.

    Maybe bring up Pence destroying 50,000 voter registrations for no reason. Or the gerrymandering and voter fraud by the GOP that occurs in Texas or Florida. This is the sign of a party losing grip.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • #872
      Originally posted by rah View Post
      Even the email leaks aren't really getting any traction.
      Even though I do find it kind of humorous, since no matter what they say, Hillary supporters just claim they were doctored and ignore them.
      yes, it's been rather amusing to see hillary's supporters flailing around about trying to say the emails are fake, and then that (implicitly admitting they are real) they don't matter in any case. indeed, none of those exposed by wikileaks has ever been able to deny the content it has published. what they've tried to do is to either attack assange, particularly through the absurd rape allegations, or to muddy the waters by talking about russian hackers ( ). they even tried to make a claim about assange being a paedophile recently, which merely exposed their own desperation.

      as for the emails, since they also expose the extent of collusion between hillary's campaign and much of the media, it's hardly surprising that those revelations aren't getting much airtime...
      "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

      "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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      • #873
        Originally posted by C0ckney View Post
        yes, it's been rather amusing to see hillary's supporters flailing around about trying to say the emails are fake, and then that (implicitly admitting they are real) they don't matter in any case. indeed, none of those exposed by wikileaks has ever been able to deny the content it has published. what they've tried to do is to either attack assange, particularly through the absurd rape allegations, or to muddy the waters by talking about russian hackers ( ). they even tried to make a claim about assange being a paedophile recently, which merely exposed their own desperation.

        as for the emails, since they also expose the extent of collusion between hillary's campaign and much of the media, it's hardly surprising that those revelations aren't getting much airtime...
        And he has nothing as expected. The tablet warrior is back at it. By the way, have you ever heard of a shift key?

        The leaks, even by Eloks own admission, were not significant nor substantative. They aren't interesting either.

        But hey whatever fits your proTrump narrative!

        By the way, Assange is wanted for rape. Take it up with Sweden. I guess he and Trump have a lot in common. The man is a loser.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #874
          When you accuse C0ckney (who is probably our most far left poster) of being a Trump supporter, you sound very silly.

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          • #875
            Page not found – Latest.com
            https://latest.com/2016/10/mike-pence-accused-of-voter-suppression-after-state-police-raid-black-voter-registration-program/


            If we are going to talk about voter suppression... He was caught in the act of doing it. And his reasons were piss poor.
            For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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            • #876
              Donald trump, the candidate of white people who didn't go to college

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              • #877
                **** giblets and the USA

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                • #878
                  Originally posted by giblets View Post
                  Donald trump, the candidate of white people who didn't go to college
                  Nailed it.

                  What I find surprising is people keep posting those maps. Um, last I checked white people aren't the only ones allowed to vote. And it just goes to show diverse this nation is becoming.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #879
                    Last edited by C0ckney; October 20, 2016, 13:27.
                    "The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.

                    "The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton

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                    • #880
                      Originally posted by giblets View Post
                      Donald trump, the candidate of white people who didn't go to college
                      According to that map he still wins among white people who did go to college.

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                      • #881
                        The difficulty is that Hillary's obvious favor-mongering would have been provocative in 2012, against Romney. Romney was an obnoxious elitist with a rod up his arse, but I don't recall him being significantly corrupt. He might have represented a decadent system, but was not decadent himself. He could have whomped Clinton. But Trump has a long history of remarkably scuzzy business--and gone on record expressing pride in cheating contractors and not paying taxes--so it's very hard to present him as the better option in that respect. If you can catch Hillary herself demanding a quid pro quo, that might make a dent, but as it is you've got some pissant underlings being naughty.

                        Now, it is more than two weeks until the election, and given the sheer weirdness at work here I seriously wouldn't be surprised if polls did regress to within five points by early November. Already the more recent polls give less generous leads to Clinton. It wasn't that long ago that she had eleven or twelve on him; now it's five or six, tops. It's not that Trump has done anything spectacularly presidential, either; perhaps the most recent major scandal has lost its shock power, and we're drifting back to the lukewarm pro-Clinton norm.
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                        • #882
                          Elok is a nerd.
                          Order of the Fly

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                          • #883
                            What are we talking about when the election is over and the dust has settled?
                            Blah

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                            • #884
                              Elok?
                              Order of the Fly

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                              • #885
                                Hm
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