Oh, wait. It's less than two in a two-way. In a four-way, it's barely over one point on RCP. Thank goodness for idiotic 250-year-old vote-rigging systems designed by aristocrats to promote the interests of slaveholders, amirite? Amirite?
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Originally posted by Elok View PostNow it's less than two points difference in a four-way race. This is just wild. If Clinton accidentally farts during a speech, Trump will take the lead. OH BUT THIS ONE POLL IN GEORGIA HAS A LARGER SAMPLE SIZE AND IF SHE MAKES TEXAS SLIGHTLY PINKER who gives a damn? It's beyond sad that the Dem candidate has to use the absurdity of the Electoral College as a crutch to stay ahead of Donald ****ing [I believe that's his legal middle name] Trump.
National polling is pretty useless... But she holds a great advantage with the electoral college.
But I think she will win by more than what the polls are saying.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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Originally posted by Aeson View PostTrump has behaved himself pretty well for almost a month now. His childcare policy is leftist/entitlement country. Something is fishy ...For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse View PostCrazy train continues to fire on all cylinders. Best reading of current set of national polls is that trump is about 2 back of clinton, only partially inclusive of Clinton's terrible, horrible, no good, very bad weekend (where I believe the story is she called trump voters white trash, burned the American flag, spat on some firefighters and then had a stroke on live tv).
And your description of Clinton's weekend is ridiculously wrong.
What happened on the weekend basically had no impact one way or the other.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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You say that as though it's a bad thing. You could pick a random middle-manager from an office-supply company in Indiana, give him the nomination of one of the two major parties (so nobody's "throwing their vote away"), and he'd handily wipe the floor with either Trump or Clinton. Pence might have a hard time because of the RFRA thing, but Kaine, well, I'm not even sure I just spelled his name right. He'd be perfect. At this point, it appears this race will be won by whoever can stay low-profile for a longer stretch, and you can't get much lower profile than "who the hell is that dude?"
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Originally posted by onodera View PostWho will run for president if either Trump or Hillary die? Sanders is even older, and both VPs are complete non-entities.
The one I wanted for a long time. Joe isn't young, but he will continue progressive policy and keep up the pressure on an imperialistic Russia with Putin the terrible.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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Yeah, it's sad that someone who I've been making fun of for Years, would be a better choice than either of the current two.It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O
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Time to Face It: Trump Really Could Win This
If Democrats are starting to panic, they should. What else do they have to throw at him?
If you aren’t seriously contemplating the biggest black swan event in American electoral history, you aren’t paying attention.
Fifteen months ago, Donald Trump was a reality-TV star with a spotty business record and a weird penchant for proclaiming he was on the verge of running for president. Now, he’s perhaps a few big breaks and a couple of sterling debate performances away from being elected 45th president of the United States.
Trump has no experience in elected office, and unlike past nonpoliticians elected president, hasn’t won a major war. He barely has a national campaign. He perhaps knows less about public affairs than the average congressman. He has repeatedly advertised his thin-skinned vindictiveness and is trampling on basic political norms, like the convention of candidates releasing their tax returns.
No major political party has ever nominated anyone like this. If Trump were to prevail, it would make Barack Obama’s unlikely rise from unknown state senator to first African-American president of the United States in about four years look like a boringly conventional political trajectory.
Obama seemed to come out of nowhere, but his steps to the presidency — law degree, state office, U.S. senator — were stereotypical. Trump won the Republican nomination despite — or because of? — attributes that would have seemed disqualifying two years ago, such as, to name a few, his personal life, his longtime support for Democrats, his newly minted, hard-to-credit social conservatism, his disdain for Republican orthodoxy, and his basic lack of preparation.
Trump now has a legitimate shot at winning the general because he got the lucky draw of at least the second-worst presidential nominee in recent memory and, pending how she fares over the next two months, perhaps the worst.
All it took for Trump to wipe away most of Hillary’s lead, built at an excellent convention and on Trump’s subsequent weeks of self-inflicted wounds, was acting like a somewhat normal presidential candidate. Have a meeting with a foreign leader. Give some policy speeches. Read from a teleprompter at rallies. Use his NPR voice when appropriate.
None of this required strategic genius, only a decision not to throw away the election with repeated episodes of self-indulgent stupidity. Throw on top of that the FBI’s document dump before Labor Day and Hillary’s near-collapse at New York’s 9/11 memorial, and the race may be headed toward a tie nationally.
Democrats should be feeling a creeping sense of panic:
They are trying to win with a candidate who is loathed and distrusted and has few redeeming qualities. As Yuval Levin, editor of National Affairs pointed out, corrupt and dishonest politicians are often entertaining, and dull politicians are usually earnest and honest. Hillary manages to be boring and corrupt. If she decided to sit out the rest of the campaign and rely on surrogates to hit the trail, she might do no worse and perhaps better.
No one can be certain that her health is what the campaign says it is. If Hillary did have a more serious condition than allergies and walking pneumonia, does anyone believe the Clintons would be forthright about it? Even if nothing else ails her, if Clinton has another episode in public like the one on Sept. 11, the bottom might fall out.
President Obama probably can’t close Hillary’s enthusiasm gap. For entirely understandable reasons (dull, inauthentic and old), the Obama coalition isn’t excited by Clinton. When Obama hit the hustings, we were reminded of what an adept campaigner he is, but there is no evidence Obama ever successfully transferred enthusiasm for himself to another candidate.
If the kitchen sink hasn’t killed off Trump, what else is there? The Clinton campaign has already used his greatest hits of most offensive statements in countless TV ads. I was appalled that Trump mocked a disabled reporter, but even I am sick of seeing the clip every other time I turn on the TV. If none of this has sunk Trump and the race gets even closer, what’s left that is going to have a new and different shock value?
A compelling Trump debate performance could change perceptions of his suitability to be commander in chief. Hillary is trouncing Trump on this attribute by a 2-to-1 margin in the Washington Post/ABC poll. If Trump shows up and seems plausible during the biggest moment of the campaign, he could vastly improve his standing on this basic readiness question.
All this said, Hillary still has an advantage. Presumably, she won’t be as snake-bit the rest of the campaign as she has been the past two weeks. She has a campaign and Trump doesn’t, and that must count for something. Demographics favor her. But if Trump can hoist himself over the bar of acceptability, he might give the voting public enough permission to make this the change election it is naturally inclined to be.
In the primaries, many people (including me) understood intellectually Trump’s odds of winning the nomination, but still had trouble accepting it because initially it seemed so unimaginable. There is even more resistance to taking on board the idea of him as the next president.
Today, in the FiveThirtyEight polls-plus forecast, Trump has a 37 percent chance of winning. This means the odds of him becoming president are about equal to Daniel Murphy of the Washington Nationals, currently hitting .347, getting a base hit in any single at-bat. No one is shocked when Murphy does. He got two hits on Tuesday night.
A Trump victory may not be likely, but it isn’t far-fetched. And, no, stranger things haven’t happened."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton
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Originally posted by rah View PostYeah, it's sad that someone who I've been making fun of for Years, would be a better choice than either of the current two.
Cockney, it is possible but if democrats work hard on mobilization (where Trump has spent little money on), they will win. They need to keep a level head and see what happens with the debates. If past performances are any measure, Hillary should win the debates. Trump is terrible at them.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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Originally posted by Giancarlo View PostSo you are glad your candidate Trump is picking up in some polls? Others say she is still ahead. Your crazy train will be derailed in November.
And your description of Clinton's weekend is ridiculously wrong.
What happened on the weekend basically had no impact one way or the other.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse View PostYou're a moron
Sometimes people try to shadow behind language, but it is incredibly obvious where they stand.
You want moronic? Look at that description of the weekend you posted. Did you even follow anything?For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)
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Originally posted by Giancarlo View PostJOE BIDEN!
The one I wanted for a long time. Joe isn't young, but he will continue progressive policy and keep up the pressure on an imperialistic Russia with Putin the terrible.
Funniest thing I heard today!!!! Thanks needed this after a long day!
\\(In case you were serious!!!)
Nahhhh..had to be a joke...great one GiancarloHi, I'm RAH and I'm a Benaholic.-rah
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