You've Been Invited to Her Place...

[kentonio]

I'm saying go on back to discussing how to have sex the way feminusts tell you to panty sniffer.

A lecture on how to have sex by a sad old mysoginist who's going to spend the rest of his life ****ing his hand. Poly really is the gift that keeps on giving.

[Kidlicious]

A lecture on how to have sex by a sad old mysoginist who's going to spend the rest of his life ****ing his hand. Poly really is the gift that keeps on giving.

I was saying that perhaps you don't need someone to tell you how to have sex. If I'm wrong, sorry.

[Ben Kenobi]

in the same way that a person may be sacked for stealing from his employer and also face a criminal prosecution.

The accused still has their own rights which are not abrogated by the university. Universities are not immune to the law.

[Kidlicious]

The accused still has their own rights which are not abrogated by the university. Universities are not immune to the law.

Men don't have a protected status, and they don't have a network of organizations defending their rights. This could only happen to men.

[C0ckney]

The accused still has their own rights which are not abrogated by the university. Universities are not immune to the law.

this addresses neither the post you responded to, nor any point made in this thread. it is also unclear and doesn't make sense.

[Kidlicious]

COckney, I don't know if you realize this, this is not a collective decision by independent universities. This is initiated and being pushed by the White House.

[C0ckney]

i am aware that it's a government initiative. however, that makes no difference to the points i have made in this thread.

[Kidlicious]

i am aware that it's a government initiative. however, that makes no difference to the points i have made in this thread.

Um yes it does. How civil courts weigh evidence has nothing to do with gender.

[Ben Kenobi]

this addresses neither the post you responded to, nor any point made in this thread. it is also unclear and doesn't make sense

What's not to understand? The accused still have their rights. The university cannot simply decide to discipline someone for raping someone else based simply on the suspicion of it. There has to be proof. That''s my point here. That's why the criminal justice system gets involved instead of kangaroo courts - not only to ensure that those who are responsible face justice, but also to protect the rights of the accused.

[kentonio]

this addresses neither the post you responded to, nor any point made in this thread. it is also unclear and doesn't make sense.

C0ckney, meet Ben..

[Kidlicious]

Also, in these courts you don't even have the right to question your accuser. Comparing it to a civil court is just ridiculous.

[C0ckney]

Um yes it does. How civil courts weigh evidence has nothing to do with gender.

you haven't followed my advice i see.

Also, in these courts you don't even have the right to question your accuser. Comparing it to a civil court is just ridiculous.

who did that? oh, you did, just then. hopeless.

[C0ckney]

What's not to understand? The accused still have their rights. The university cannot simply decide to discipline someone for raping someone else based simply on the suspicion of it. There has to be proof. That''s my point here. That's why the criminal justice system gets involved instead of kangaroo courts - not only to ensure that those who are responsible face justice, but also to protect the rights of the accused.

this is just guff.

how is a university disciplinary hearing about sexual misconduct different to a university disciplinary hearing about cheating on an exam?

[Kidlicious]

you haven't followed my advice i see.



who did that? oh, you did, just then. hopeless.

I have no idea what your point is. I thought it was that using this standard was ok because that's what standard they use in civil courts.

Why can't you just admit that they have no real concern for justice? On top of that they seem willfully ignorant of research that suggests that only 3% of men rape.

[Ben Kenobi]

how is a university disciplinary hearing about sexual misconduct different to a university disciplinary hearing about cheating on an exam?

How is a university disciplinary hearing about sexual misconduct different from a criminal court case trial for sexual assault? Very different. In the latter the accused has protection from false allegations, and greater evidentiary standards need to be met in order to secure convictions. In the former, allegations without proof are sufficient to establish charges.