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**Willem** · January 20, 2003, 02:41

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi

Ok. I hope in future times you and all other Canadians will refrain from commenting interal US politics

Fine with me, as long as you don't drag the rest of the world into your problems.

**cinch** · January 20, 2003, 02:41

(Stupid Question: How do I get me a flag next to the ol' name?)

Canadian politics is in a sad, sad state right now, in my opinion...

The Alliance is filled with (a) rednecks (and I'm from Alberta, so I'm qualified to judge), (b) idiots, and (c) lost Tories.

The Tories themselves are castrated.

The NDP, who ideally I would match up with best, are a bunch of do-nothing whiners who let Svend Robinson get away with unabashedly supporting the Palestinian Authority to a degree that even Dubya would find excessive...

And the Liberals. My god, the Liberals... They truly have an unbreakable hold on federal politics, and I just don't know why... Actually, it's probably just for lack of an alternative. Or who knows, maybe down east people actually LIKE the Liberals for some unfathomable reason...

The gun registration is the most sickening waste of tax dollars I've ever heard of.

Asher: you're right about Alberta oil being at a standstill, but you have to admit that when the Ft. MacMurray, Leduc, and wherever else oil sands dry up, Alberta's gonna be in for a world of economic hurt. Especially what with Ralphie Moneymaker's right-wing tweakings... The Energy prices have skyrocketed under privatization, and health & education are going downhill fast.

It's a bad scene all around.

**Asher** · January 20, 2003, 02:43

Asher: you're right about Alberta oil being at a standstill, but you have to admit that when the Ft. MacMurray, Leduc, and wherever else oil sands dry up, Alberta's gonna be in for a world of economic hurt. Especially what with Ralphie Moneymaker's right-wing tweakings... The Energy prices have skyrocketed under privatization, and health & education are going downhill fast.

The Alberta oilsands aren't even close to being dried up (they've extracted less than 1% of known oil, and they're still exploring...), and the Alberta economy has been disversifying quite rapidly over the past 20 years.

We're not there yet, but we'll definitely be there soon.

And you should look at the energy prices, they're back to levels just before privatization. There was a huge spike for a year, but they normalized.

And IIRC, Alberta still tested the highest in math and reading skills in the country.

And several new hospitals are being built, and a ton of new schools, and nurses just got a huge payraise...

**Ben Kenobi** · January 20, 2003, 02:44

cinch:

Here is the deal with the flags:

go to your control panel:

Click on "Edit Profile"

Slide down past "Birthdate" until you reach,
"Select your Country."

**KrazyHorse** · January 20, 2003, 02:44

cinch

NDP! NDP! NDP!

Anyhow, they stripped Svend of his ME responsibilities after his trip. Which made for entertaining TV, BTW. It's not every day you see an Israeli soldier bullying a Canadian MP around...

**Willem** · January 20, 2003, 02:46

Originally posted by obiwan18

Most BC'ers don't mind taking these sacrifices so long as the province turns the corner. We're all envious of Alberta and the Klein revolution.

I think they'd be better off looking at the mess Mike Harris made of Ontario. The PCs are going to take a beating next election I predict. The final straw was the fiasco deregulating the hydro system turned out to be.

**KrazyHorse** · January 20, 2003, 02:47

Yup. The PCs are going to get it in Ontario, the Libs in BC. All that's left to take down is Alberta...

**Ben Kenobi** · January 20, 2003, 02:48

"The Alliance is filled with (a) rednecks"

More BC'ers voted Alliance than Albertans in the last elections.

I say the Alliance party is filled with conservatives.
Rednecks are a myth.

The PC's are Liberal lite.

**Asher** · January 20, 2003, 02:49

The PCs are Liberals done right.

Assuming the right leaders get into power...

Not only does Clark marshall gay pride parades, but he also believes in decreasing government overhead.

The party matches my philosophy very well, but they lack leadership ability.

**KrazyHorse** · January 20, 2003, 02:49

The CA is going down, down, down. That 10% only accounts for the province of Alberta...

**KrazyHorse** · January 20, 2003, 02:50

And at 13% the Tories aren't going to form a government any time in the near future either.

It's time to REFOOOOOORRRRRRMMMM the Alliance.

**Asher** · January 20, 2003, 02:52

In the perfect world, the Alliance would be disbanded, the members merged into the PCs, and they'd all adopt more Liberal social views...

**cinch** · January 20, 2003, 02:52

Slide down past "Birthdate" until you reach,

Thank you, sirrah.

The Alberta oilsands aren't even close to being dried up (they've extracted less than 1% of known oil, and they're still exploring...), and the Alberta economy has been disversifying quite rapidly over the past 20 years.

You're a more optimistic man than I, Asher.

We're not there yet, but we'll definitely be there soon.

That's more like it!

And you should look at the energy prices, they're back to levels just before privatization. There was a huge spike for a year, but they normalized.

Well, I'll admit I'm not that wise when it comes to energy prices, so you win this round!

And IIRC, Alberta still tested the highest in math and reading skills in the country.

Damn you and your stats!

And several new hospitals are being built, and a ton of new schools, and nurses just got a huge payraise...

But what about the whole "private clinics can perform surgery maybe" thing? Do you buy the whole "Once you open the doors..." argument?

Ooo, and here's something else I can complain about, schoolwise: Why, oh why, do we still allow that relic of colonial Quebec, public funding to Catholic schools, to survive? Why don't Hindi community schools/learning centres get the same treatment? (Now, I'm quite sure you're about to correct me on this, too, so let me prepare myself... ok, shoot.

)

**Ben Kenobi** · January 20, 2003, 02:53

"I think they'd be better off looking at the mess Mike Harris made of Ontario."

4 billion dollar deficit in BC

That's the bottom line.

You can't blame the voters for focusing on this issue, since it was the key platform for the Liberals, so-called 'Fiscal responsibility.'

Don't know too much about Ontario provincial politics. I thought Mike Harris was quite popular among the conservative voters. Don't they have a new premier there? How is he doing? I have an aunt who lives there, likes the tax cuts from Harris more than anything else.

**notyoueither** · January 20, 2003, 02:53

My, isn't kitty rambunctious tonight.

Originally posted by Frogger
All that's left to take down is Alberta...

Dream the impossible dream...

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