10.5%

[Ben Kenobi]

"Are you from BC? If so, how are people there taking that stupid move Campbell pulled in Hawaii?"

Willem- I'm from BC.

Liberals (small l) and the NDP supporters are castigating Campbell for hypocrisy, as he publicly stated that any Premier accused of a crime should step down until the investigation has finished.

The party is just shaking off the complaints. No non-confidence motion anytime soon.

Campbell will fall for one reason and one reason only-
failing to balance the budget. This Campbell case will lower some of his support, but not much.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Frogger
My point is not that there aren't closures of projects, but that it doesn't look like the Alberta oil industry is in any sort of overall slide...

Especially with the price of crude going up because of Iraq and Venezuela.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Asher

How the hell can they have a cost estimate like that when the federal government hasn't said how it's going to deal with the Alberta oilsands???

Based on an emissions tax of 15$ per ton (which is what the gov't said it would probably peg the price at). The oil industry (at least the bright parts of it) are seeing an opportunity here...

It wasn't just Suncor; another company that week said it felt that Kyoto would not be a significant bar to development...

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Willem


As an American, I don't see how you have any business saying who should or shouldn't break away.

They want the oil. But what he doesn't know is that nobody gets out of this country alive. Quebec's been whining for 300 years, but it's still trapped. We're a big dysfunctional family where everybody threatens to move out, but nobody wants to pay the rent or do their own laundry.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Willem
Especially with the price of crude going up because of Iraq and Venezuela.

That in no way affects things like the job market in Alberta, it just adds to provincial coffers ($108M/year for every $1 increase) and company profits.

Based on an emissions tax of 15$ per ton (which is what the gov't said it would probably peg the price at). The oil industry (at least the bright parts of it) are seeing an opportunity here...

The problem isn't the emissions tax they're worried about.

The problem is we need to reduce emissions. The oil sands projects are HUGE polluters, they work by mining and converting -- it pollutes more than normal oil extraction by a good deal. The Federal government may do something to stop that, because every new project drastically increases Canada's pollution...which undermines the purpose of Kyoto.

It wasn't just Suncor; another company that week said it felt that Kyoto would not be a significant bar to development...

Which one?

[Ben Kenobi]

"As an American, I don't see how you have any business saying who should or shouldn't break away."

Last time I checked this was not a Canadienthreade, Willem.

Or is it?

[Lancer]

Well isn't that cute...Canadian elections.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by obiwan18
"Are you from BC? If so, how are people there taking that stupid move Campbell pulled in Hawaii?"

Willem- I'm from BC.

Liberals (small l) and the NDP supporters are castigating Campbell for hypocrisy, as he publicly stated that any Premier accused of a crime should step down until the investigation has finished.

The party is just shaking off the complaints. No non-confidence motion anytime soon.

Campbell will fall for one reason and one reason only-
failing to balance the budget. This Campbell case will lower some of his support, but not much.

He's already been taking it up the ass in the polls, hasn't he? His hospital closures and layoffs weren't exactly popular. My prediction is 4 years of Campbell followed by another 15 years of NDP rollercoaster.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Asher
Which one?

Can't remember. Was a joint story when I watched it on the news.

[Shi Huangdi]

Originally posted by Willem


As an American, I don't see how you have any business saying who should or shouldn't break away.

Ok. I hope in future times you and all other Canadians will refrain from commenting interal US politics

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Lancer
Well isn't that cute...Canadian elections.

It must be frustrating to live in a region of the US that's less significant than Canada.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Frogger
Can't remember. Was a joint story when I watched it on the news.

I can guarantee you it was most likely from a company already completed (or too far in to pull out) project. They're doing it to save their stocks.

The companies that were looking at starting projects have been reconsidering and shelving projects...

[KrazyHorse]

Hmmm....

Let's see: any time an American comments on Canadian politics (aside from a few exceptions) all he can contribute is to encourage bits of Canada to break away and join the US. You're welcome to do so, Shi, but it would be much more interesting if you would go to the trouble of getting some background first...

[Willem]

Originally posted by obiwan18
"As an American, I don't see how you have any business saying who should or shouldn't break away."

Last time I checked this was not a Canadienthreade, Willem.

Or is it?

Hey, they jump down my throat when I stick my nose in their politics! So I feel perfectly justified in dishing some back when they do the same to us.

[Ben Kenobi]

"He's already been taking it up the ass in the polls, hasn't he? His hospital closures and layoffs weren't exactly popular. My prediction is 4 years of Campbell followed by another 15 years of NDP rollercoaster. "

Willem

According to the media, but some of the people like this image change. I saw a hilarious political cartoon today, comparing the Campbell before the election, and the Campbell afterwards.

The before Campbell wore underwear on top of his pants. Now Campbell just wears briefs on his head.


People were promised economic prosperity under the new Campbell era. If he balances the budget, he'll be fine. Hospital closings only an issue in the Lower Mainland. In the North, the big deal is with the courthouses and the schools.

Most BC'ers don't mind taking these sacrifices so long as the province turns the corner. We're all envious of Alberta and the Klein revolution.