10.5%

[ThePantaloonDog]

The difference between American, politics where you can choose between the equivalent of Hitler or Stalin, from Canadian politics is that in Canada you not only get the choice of Hitler and Stalin but also Pol Pot and Pinochet. Democracy at its best!

[KrazyHorse]

They're way down in the poll numbers. Very similar to Mulroney. He walked on water for 2-3 elections, then growing backlash swept up. He resigned so he wouldn't have to face what the next election's going to bring.

[Willem]

Originally posted by Frogger
And at 13% the Tories aren't going to form a government any time in the near future either.

Who's to say what will happen after their leadership convention though. There's still lots of time before the next election. Idoubt they'll be able to form a government, but they could still come well out on top of the Reform. I predict they'll be the official opposition next time around, with a decent showing.

[Asher]

Originally posted by cinch
But what about the whole "private clinics can perform surgery maybe" thing? Do you buy the whole "Once you open the doors..." argument?

This was overblown.

No, I don't buy the "open the doors" argument.

First off, the private clinics thing is only for optional surgeries, and for those who don't require overnight stays. Second off, the cost is still covered as normal just like public hospitals work. Third off, it's been happening for over 10 years in several provinces, Alberta's the only one who passed specific legislation regulating the process...

Ooo, and here's something else I can complain about, schoolwise: Why, oh why, do we still allow that relic of colonial Quebec, public funding to Catholic schools, to survive? Why don't Hindi community schools/learning centres get the same treatment? (Now, I'm quite sure you're about to correct me on this, too, so let me prepare myself... ok, shoot. )

Well, in Calgary at least there actually is a Muslim school for example, while it's technically under the Public District.

We also have several other specialty schools, from athletics to vocational schools.

[Ben Kenobi]

Let's create the CONFOOORM party of Canada. It's the only way we'll be able to deal with the National Governing Party.

"Thank you, sirrah."

Quote me in your sig. You're quite welcome.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by ThePantaloonDog
The difference between American, politics where you can choose between the equivalent of Hitler or Stalin, from Canadian politics is that in Canada you not only get the choice of Hitler and Stalin but also Pol Pot and Pinochet. Democracy at its best!

How could you not trust this face?

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Willem


As an American, I don't see how you have any business saying who should or shouldn't break away.

You're an American? Why do you fly the Canadian flag?

[cinch]

I say the Alliance party is filled with conservatives.

Rednecks are a myth.

I'm only saying that some of the Alliance are rednecks... Notably the guy who said the natives should stop talking about their treaties because we "conquered" them. THAT was a redneck.

Not only does Clark marshall gay pride parades, but he also believes in decreasing government overhead.

You've got a point there, Asher. Although, I do still have the sinking feeling that any party that comes to power in Canada will just revert to the totalitarian ways of the current Libs. Sigh.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tingkai
You're an American? Why do you fly the Canadian flag?

He's said "As an American, I don't see how you...".

Read that again.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Willem


Who's to say what will happen after their leadership convention though. There's still lots of time before the next election. Idoubt they'll be able to form a government, but they could still come well out on top of the Reform. I predict they'll be the official opposition next time around, with a decent showing.

I doubt it. Like the man says, the CRAP ( ) has its support concentrated which makes for seats. The PC doesn't. Every vote it gets in Ontario or Quebec is wasted.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by notyoueither
My, isn't kitty rambunctious tonight.

Quite. Those numbers made my day...

[Asher]

I like this cinch guy, he's very polite and respectful in debates.

You can hardly tell he's Canadian.

[Willem]

Originally posted by cinch


Ooo, and here's something else I can complain about, schoolwise: Why, oh why, do we still allow that relic of colonial Quebec, public funding to Catholic schools, to survive? Why don't Hindi community schools/learning centres get the same treatment? (Now, I'm quite sure you're about to correct me on this, too, so let me prepare myself... ok, shoot. )

That started out as part of the British North American Act way back when, as a concession to the Catholic French in Upper Canada. And it eventually found it's way into the constitution. To change that, we'd need to have another version of Meech Lake, and you know well that went!

[KrazyHorse]

Even Quebec's gotten rid of the Catholic/Protestant division now...

Schools are defined linguistically.

[Ben Kenobi]

"Who's to say what will happen after their leadership convention though. There's still lots of time before the next election. Idoubt they'll be able to form a government, but they could still come well out on top of the Reform. I predict they'll be the official opposition next time around, with a decent showing."


The west won't vote PC because we remember how the PC's messed up Winnipeg's bid for a large government contract. The PC is still seen as the party for the East, made up of Easterners.

The PC won't beat the Libs in Ontario because the Libs have solid support across Canada. Quebec is the same. Finally, increased NDP support in the Maritimes might make the PC's lose seats.

I predict the PC will lose all its' seats before it becomes the official opposition.

The leadership conference will have to ditch Joe Clark before they have a hope of anything.