The OFFICIAL United States Presidential Election Thread! IV

[Drachasor]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Okay.

So why then, are you in favour of killing the child through a partial birth abortion, rather than saving the life of both in an emergency c-section?

Point, though my understanding is there are times when this can't work either. Sometimes the mother is too weak to handle a C-section (such as if she has highly progressed cancer or aids). Very rare, but it needs to be considered by the law.

-Drachasor

[Drachasor]

Originally posted by Drachasor


Point, though my understanding is there are times when this can't work either. Sometimes the mother is too weak to handle a C-section (such as if she has highly progressed cancer or aids). Very rare, but it needs to be considered by the law.

-Drachasor

Though, if the mother isn't going to survive anyway...

Hmm, it is probably very, very rare in such cases. I am fairly sure there are times when an abortion can increase the likelihood of survival.

-Drachasor

[Ben Kenobi]

Point, though my understanding is there are times when this can't work either. Sometimes the mother is too weak to handle a C-section (such as if she has highly progressed cancer or aids). Very rare, but it needs to be considered by the law.

If the woman is going to have problems delivering the baby, won't these same problems come with partial birth abortion?

After all, you have to pull the child almost all the way out. All but the head.

Why would it be less safe to do an emergency c-section than to induce delivery?

BTW, the primary complication in late pregnancy, eclampsia, the preferred treatment is a c-section.

[Ned]

Drach, from my understanding, a partial birth abortion happens when the viable baby is almost fully outside the mother. The doctor then stops further movement of the baby out while he then kills it.

If this is correct, there is no conceivable "health" reason for the deliberate murder taking place.

[Imran Siddiqui]

They just want to live in peace and be left alone by the government without fear of there lifestyle being regulated (eg: Hunting)

Homosexuals don't want their lifestyle being regulated either, but the Right doesn't seem to want to them to have that right.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by GePap



Show me evidence that Oklahoma or Kansas or Mississippi are catching up to New Jersey, Connecticutt, or New York, cause otherwise you are just talking out your ass.

I may be moving to Kansas shortly, because I have a couple lines on similar-paying jobs, while expenses are cut in half compared to New Jersey.

[GePap]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk


I may be moving to Kansas shortly, because I have a couple lines on similar-paying jobs, while expenses are cut in half compared to New Jersey.

Well,

1. Sorry

2. Wow, your sample only has a +/- 99% margin of error. Good for you

[The Mad Monk]

[monkspider]

Where at in Kansas MM?

I'm a native Wichitan BTW.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Ned


Or their taxes being raised to pay for socialism or their businesses being destroyed by regulation, environmental extremism and unions, or their pro-life moral values being ridiculed by leftist, activist judges and their faith in God being mocked degraded by elitist snobs.

Ned: Everyones' taxes are going to go up big time because we owe so much money plus interest. Don't tax but spend any way Republicans have seriously damaged the future health of our country and now it isn't clear how we're going to pay off our debt and pay for the retirement of the baby boomers.

I agree that activist judges are bad but you seem to be under the impression that rightist don't nominate activist judges. They do and they've been trying to back door legislate an anti-choice/pro-religion agenda upon the rest of us.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by monkspider
Where at in Kansas MM?

I'm a native Wichitan BTW.

My parents are living in Overland Park, so I've been looking around the KC area. found a sweet little farmhouse in Paola (using the internet), though that's a little far afield. Couple other finds are closer to KC, but that farmhouse is cool.

[monkspider]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk


My parents are living in Overland Park, so I've been looking around the KC area. found a sweet little farmhouse in Paola (using the internet), though that's a little far afield. Couple other finds are closer to KC, but that farmhouse is cool.

Nice.

That will make you the third 'Poly Kansan, joining me and Berzerker. We are overtaking even the Finns!

[Theben]

Originally posted by Ned

Mr. Fun, you again are making gay "marriage" a litmus test. I assume from this that domestic partner rights are not sufficient for you or gays in general. Right?

From MrFun's (and mine) domestic partner rights= for gays only.

Reeks of 2nd-class citizenship. Even a conservative SCOTUS should strike them down.

[Theben]

Originally posted by Ned

The Dems are also in denial when they fail to understand why businesses move South. They tell everyone that high taxes and stong unions bring jobs.

But the truth lies elsewhere.

That in a consumer-driven economy, it helps to put money in the hands of consumers?

The flight of jobs from the north to south is at best a stop-gap. Those jobs will then go from there to Mexico and points south, then to China, then to places like Vietnam, Malaysia, Thailand. It's happening already; it's been happening.

[Theben]

Originally posted by Ned

a prime example of the radical left hatred...

a prime example of why no one here can take you seriously when you say, "liberals need to be nicer/more tolerant/whatever towards conservatives/republicans."