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  • Originally posted by Ming View Post
    If you want to live in this country and take advantage of all it offers... you have to pay the taxman.
    People who were born here and don't like it can leave.
    And People who weren't born here knew the rules when they came here. If they don't like it, they can leave too.
    Careful. He will respond and say Texas doesn't charge income taxes lol. But they take a lot more federal Money than California. He will then say federal money is forced on Texas lmao.

    A special case indeed. Straitjacket quality.
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • Originally posted by rah View Post
      Why does Ben rag so much about income tax? I'm sure with his income it wouldn't be much. And I'm sure quite a few here pay more in taxes than he probably makes. It figures that only the one that pays so little would complain.
      Lol he is upset about state income taxes. Even with what I make, state income taxes are never that significant. Lol. Ben hates taxes, but wants all the benefits society has to offer (like roads many of which are federally funded). It is like some protesting that they don't want to pay taxes, yet want an expansion in medicare.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • Texas gets their money from you one way or another.
        And he still has to pay the Fed.

        He can whine like a stuck pig all he wants, but he still has to pay.
        Keep on Civin'
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        • Why does Ben rag so much about income tax? I'm sure with his income it wouldn't be much. And I'm sure quite a few here pay more in taxes than he probably makes. It figures that only the one that pays so little would complain.
          That's an interesting question. It's like a Cuban who comes over from Cuba. Texas is doing well because of the choices that they make. I would like all of America to be just as free and prosperous as Texas by adopting the policies that work for Texas.

          I felt less strongly about that previously, but having been here, liking it here, why not? It's not about 'paying your dues', but the best way to do so.

          I probably get dinged more by consumption taxes and that's ok with me, I'd rather see people rewarded for working hard.
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          • Church of England types are generally the kind of people who want to raise taxes so they can help more needy people for instance
            Your church was founded because an Englishman was unsatisfied with his older (but still beautiful) Spanish wife, and you call us 'bizarre'?

            Catherine was an amazing lady.
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            • Ben hates taxes, but wants all the benefits society has to offer (like roads many of which are federally funded). It is like some protesting that they don't want to pay taxes, yet want an expansion in medicare.
              I don't support the expansion of medicare. I'm fine with lower taxes and lower services. Never been on welfare, earned my own living.
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              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                That's an interesting question. It's like a Cuban who comes over from Cuba. Texas is doing well because of the choices that they make. I would like all of America to be just as free and prosperous as Texas by adopting the policies that work for Texas.

                I felt less strongly about that previously, but having been here, liking it here, why not? It's not about 'paying your dues', but the best way to do so.

                I probably get dinged more by consumption taxes and that's ok with me, I'd rather see people rewarded for working hard.
                This idiot hates the poor and middle class. He wants to hit them even harder. Consumption taxes and sales taxes really hurt working class families.

                But this clown will keep blabbering about his dump of a state. Texas is a state overly dependent on low end jobs.

                Texas is not doing well. Great parts of it are headed towards insolvency and have had major credit downgrades. They are struggling to maintain a balanced budget.

                All of America won't adopt the **** policies in Texas. All of America would be better off if they adopted California's policies.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                  I don't support the expansion of medicare. I'm fine with lower taxes and lower services. Never been on welfare, earned my own living.
                  You're an idiot then. You don't care about people or the elderly. The elderly often cannot work you moron.

                  Earned your own living huh? On what? A part time teacher's salary? Have you even thought about the future?
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • This idiot hates the poor and middle class. He wants to hit them even harder.
                    Actually income taxes hit the working poor and middle classes far harder than consumption taxes which actually hit the wealthy. It's just not worth it to avoid consumption taxes if you're wealthy, whereas income taxes are a much different story.

                    Texas is not doing well.
                    Texas is actually doing really well.
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                    • Have you even thought about the future?
                      Why do you think I came to Texas and not, say California?
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                      • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        Actually income taxes hit the working poor and middle classes far harder than consumption taxes which actually hit the wealthy. It's just not worth it to avoid consumption taxes if you're wealthy, whereas income taxes are a much different story.



                        Texas is actually doing really well.

                        Wrong IDIOT. Consumption taxes, including sales taxes, target the poor and take more of their income. You're just so stupid you don't even know what you're saying anymore.

                        Texas is heading towards insolvency you idiot! I JUST POSTED JUST A BUNCH OF ARTICLES showing that your state has been hit with credit downgrades.
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                          Why do you think I came to Texas and not, say California?
                          California is the ****ing future, you clown. Texas is an insolvent mess as dependent as Nigeria on oil for money.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • California is the ****ing future, you clown.
                            Man, with all the Californian transplants here - I have a lot of fun telling them I am from Canada. They really really like me
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                            • target the poor
                              There's a difference between the poor and the working poor. The bad thing about income taxes is that it makes it harder to get off the dole.
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                              • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                                And Jesus said "taxation is slavery" and it was good..
                                Since I -much like Elok- am a nerd, my inner pedant demands that I point out that Jesus said unambiguously to pay your taxes...

                                I have a whole sermon that goes with that, actually...
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