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  • Dubya... a Christian.... Bombed Iraq. Total number dead: 800,000. Hmmm!
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • Sure, they only allow people who want to get an education (oh no wait, actually they have to be there), or want to not die from the car that just hit them, or want access to cultural items that help educate and enrich the lives of all people regardless of race, gender, religion or sexuality.
      Everyone is allowed to go. I'm not shocked to see you'd rather take everything away from the Church, including their property. It's been done before by Henry VIII and the Church was never compensated.

      Are you going to return Canterbury to us and repay us for it being taken? The state has enriched itself considerably from the Catholic church.

      By less of a margin than you probably think. We have tens of millions of people a year visiting UK museums, while church attendence dropped below 1m a week a while back.
      1 million a week is 50+ million a year and that's just the Anglican Church. Catholics actually have higher attendance plus you have the Methodists, etc. If your argument is that we should be funding museums because they provide a public benefit, then the Church insofar as it provides a public benefit should also be funded. You've actually quite undermined your own argument here, Kentonio.

      why don't you Christians pay for them instead of expecting everyone else to?
      Because you confiscated them from us?

      Utterly pathetic, you try and associate your cult with organizations that genuinely try to help people,
      Uh, yeah. Plenty of people have and will be helped by the Church and the volunteer organizations that we run.
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      • The church has antiquated views on sexuality and does nothing when kids get molested by Priests
        Ming was bringing up Catholic teachings in the other thread so I brought the argument back here.
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        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
          Ming - the difference between homosexual marriage and Catholic teaching on divorce is that homosexual marriage, is that homosexual marriage is wrong because sodomy in and of itself is wrong. There isn't an instance in which it would be right. Two, divorced people having sex with each other aren't indulging in adultery. If when they married, they weren't Catholic, they are not bound to Catholic rules surrounding marriage and divorce.
          Gee... then it's a case of premarital sex, which in and of itself is wrong according to the Catholic Church. No difference.
          Keep on Civin'
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          • Gee... then it's a case of premarital sex, which in and of itself is wrong according to the Catholic Church. No difference.
            You called it adultery. Which I'm a bit puzzled by. By your definition if Pekka had remarried, the Catholic church would consider it adultery because we don't do remarriage.
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            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
              ....

              Uh, Christians are indeed victims, all over the world.
              ...
              If it were about this, you should understand Giancarlo very well ...
              Homosexuals are also victims aöll around the woorld, even more so than christians (with the latter being tolerated in most muslim lands)

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              • Church membership and attendance is in a decline. It might have to do with improvements in education and modernization.
                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                • Homosexuals are also victims aöll around the woorld, even more so than christians (with the latter being tolerated in most muslim lands)
                  Tell that to the Copts beheaded.
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                  • because we don't do remarriage.
                    No, you make people pay for annulments so they can marry again.
                    Sounds like remarriage to me. But whatever you have to do to disguise it so you can do it. At least you make money on it.
                    Some might call it extortion.
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                    • LGBT people get heavily persecuted throughout the world. In Muslim and Christian societies. As well as in India, a Hindu society.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        Tell that to the Copts beheaded.
                        So you are denying that LGBT people are vastly more threatened than any other? Do you lie to yourself this much in real life?
                        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                        • So you are denying that LGBT people are vastly more threatened than any other? Do you lie to yourself this much in real life?
                          Yes, of course I deny that when Christians are being executed.
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                          • No, you make people pay for annulments so they can marry again.
                            Sounds like remarriage to me. But whatever you have to do to disguise it so you can do it. At least you make money on it.
                            Some might call it extortion.
                            Annulments are statements that there was never a marriage in the first place. But then, only Catholics know the difference.
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                            • I know the difference and I also know that if you pay enough that they will say there never was a marriage in the first place.
                              If you think this isn't routinely abused, you're an even bigger idiot than I thought.
                              I would bring up a few of my friends that paid for that definition but using personal experiences to prove generalities is your gig.
                              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                                Yes, of course I deny that when Christians are being executed.
                                You are an ignorant fool then!

                                Idiot? You are a ****ing moron. I don't know what your problem is with LGBT people.
                                For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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