Pope: Catholics should ask gay people for forgiveness

[rah]

You misunderstand me Jon.

I think a lot of "not for profit" organization should pay property taxes. There are many that do.

The Catholic Church should join them.

Government run organizations should not.

And the vetting for getting property tax except status should be more strict.

There are quite a few hospitals that I think should pay.

Museums if privately owned should pay also.

[Ben Kenobi]

I think a lot of "not for profit" organization should pay property taxes. There are many that do.

The Catholic Church should join them.

Government run organizations should not.

I don't see the point of treating the two differently when they perform many of the same services.

[Ben Kenobi]

How is it a religion? It simply is arguing for neutrality. You want to put religion into government and enforce religious rules onto others. Secularism merely argues for neutrality. You sir are lying once again.

If it were neutrality, you wouldn't be seeing Christians fined 125k for practicing their faith. It is *NOT* neutrality in any way shape or form, but rather, a competing religion.

Forcing people to pay taxes while churches don't is wrong.

You're one of those 'corporations aren't people' folks, Aren't you?

Bless your heart.

[Proteus_MST]

If it were neutrality, you wouldn't be seeing Christians fined 125k for practicing their faith. It is *NOT* neutrality in any way shape or form, but rather, a competing religion.
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Last time I checked, naming and shaming homosexual couples over the internet wasn't included as part of practicing the christian faith

[Giancarlo]

If it were neutrality, you wouldn't be seeing Christians fined 125k for practicing their faith. It is *NOT* neutrality in any way shape or form, but rather, a competing religion.

Sorry, but nobody was fined that for their faith. They were fined for their behavior of putting the names of same sex couples on the internet, which could have led to tragic consequences.

Secularism isn't a religion. It is about neutrality. And the law must be followed. Exposing someone to potential violence is a violation of the law. Online bullying and incitement to violence isn't very Christian.

You're one of those 'corporations aren't people' folks, Aren't you?

Bless your heart.

You are one of those delusional religious idiots, aren't you? Bless your heart the same.

[Giancarlo]

Ben lying once again... What a surprise.

[Bereta_Eder]

Ben needs to get laid but he can't.
He says it's because of catholicism.... but it ain't that

[Dauphin]

I don't see the point of treating the two differently when they perform many of the same services.

Government run organizations could pay taxes.....to the government.....to fund government run organizations.

[Ben Kenobi]

naming and shaming homosexual couples over the internet wasn't included as part of practicing the christian faith

Traditional marriage is. You've argued that Christians should be forced to cater a homosexual wedding.

[Ben Kenobi]

Government run organizations could pay taxes.....to the government.....to fund government run organizations.

Which is outright dumb. Why bother?

[Ben Kenobi]

Secularism isn't a religion. It is about neutrality. And the law must be followed. Exposing someone to potential violence is a violation of the law. Online bullying and incitement to violence isn't very Christian.

But death threats are a part of secularism?

[Giancarlo]

Traditional marriage is. You've argued that Christians should be forced to cater a homosexual wedding.

That isn't what that penalty is about. You are lying once again. They exposed that couple to death threats. Traditional marriage? Marriage is a secular institution. Many go to a local courthouse or county government office to get married. If you want to have a religious ceremony that is fine, but not relevant.

Atheists get married. They just don't do the religious ceremony.

[Giancarlo]

But death threats are a part of secularism?

So you are arguing death threats are fine when Christians do it? The same sex couples received horrific threats, but according to you that isn't important.

You are a stupid liar.

[Berzerker]

Yet those same 'primitives' built the pyramids.

I suppose you think that ancient times had dinosaurs and cavemen too.

So thats how they built the pyramids, dino-power

Actually its your YEC cousins who believe we lived with dinosaurs

[Ben Kenobi]

That isn't what that penalty is about.

Yes, that is what the penalty is about. You've been arguing that Christian bakers should be forced to cater homosexual weddings contrary to their conscience rights.

You are lying once again. They exposed that couple to death threats. Traditional marriage? Marriage is a secular institution.

And that's my point -if you're arguing that 'marriage is a secular institution', what you are arguing is, "the sacrament of marriage should have nothing to do with the Church and everything to do with the state. This is a religious argument, in the sense that you are making claims about what the sacrament of marriage entails.

Atheists get married. They just don't do the religious ceremony.

Or rather they do everything in the ceremony except have it in the church. I have been to many weddings, Gian.