School Shooting

[Ben Kenobi]

So it's not the lack of gun control's fault after all? Shocking.

[BlackCat]

We don't put ordinary cops in to deal with teenagers because we want them to be lenient with youth. Just like how most universities have campus police departments. How is that unreasonable or weird?

Teenagers commit a lot of petty crimes because they're stupid teenagers. They generally grow out of it eventually. Punishing them through the ordinary adult justice system would lead to a lot of career criminals.

I don't get this - are you claiming that there are more lenient ways to handle murder, rape, theft etc. at american universities ?

Edit: You managed to edit your comment befor i answered - no, I don't think that teenagers should be treated more lenient because they are young. That is actually a pretty inane stance.

[ricketyclik]

So it's not the lack of gun control's fault after all? Shocking.

If the US had stricter gun control laws the mother wouldn't have owned guns.

[-Jrabbit]

So another senseless mass murder happens, and this pathetic repeater gun control thread is all we get?

Sad.

[DinoDoc]

So another senseless mass murder happens, and this pathetic repeater gun control thread is all we get?

Sad.

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[giblets]

Would there be fewer mass shootings if the media gave them less publicity? I have to wonder how the idea gets in people's heads. It's time we repealed the first amendment.

[BlackCat]

So another senseless mass murder happens, and this pathetic repeater gun control thread is all we get?

Sad.

Yep, is quite sad that you yanks won learn the lessons that you are teached. Easy acces to guns are ending up in mass murders, but no, ownership of useless guns are more important.

[BlackCat]

Would there be fewer mass shootings if the media gave them less publicity? I have to wonder how the idea gets in people's heads. It's time we repealed the first amendment.

Yeah, shut down the internet instead of reducing acces to guns

[regexcellent]

If the US had stricter gun control laws the mother wouldn't have owned guns.

So she should be stripped of her right to own guns because of something her son might do? That's completely retarded.

That is what I'll call "legal" acces

That's also retarded. He stole the guns.

[BlackCat]

That's also retarded. He stole the guns.

Sure, he hacked the security codes that prevented illegal acces to the weapons that was stored in a secure vault

[Hauldren Collider]

I don't get this - are you claiming that there are more lenient ways to handle murder, rape, theft etc. at american universities ?

Edit: You managed to edit your comment befor i answered - no, I don't think that teenagers should be treated more lenient because they are young. That is actually a pretty inane stance.

No, moron. I said "petty" crimes. That means stuff like petty theft, drug use.

[Hauldren Collider]

Would there be fewer mass shootings if the media gave them less publicity? I have to wonder how the idea gets in people's heads. It's time we repealed the first amendment.

While you are obviously kidding, I do think it's worth noting that we tend to give these people far more attention and especially pity (in the case of the insane) than they deserve. I do think it actually encourages more shootings. Obviously we shouldn't ban the news networks from talking about them, but the possibility that this is true is worth considering.

[BlackCat]

No, moron. I said "petty" crimes. That means stuff like petty theft, drug use.

Oh, so some people, like university attendands should have other treatments than say ordinary youths working more humble ways ?

It's kind of funny that an american would state such a disregard to equality to the law.

[ricketyclik]

So she should be stripped of her right to own guns because of something her son might do? That's completely retarded.

That's how most of the rest of the world operates, and mass - and general - shootings at schools and other public venues - and generally - do seem to be significantly lower in our countries.

It's the central point in the gun law debate - no gun starts its life as an illegal gun. If the population of legal guns were significantly lower, so too would it be for illegal guns.

Sure, this guy was clearly deranged and may well have done some damage in any case, but 27 people?

More generally it's far, far easier to kill or maim someone in a moment of rage if there's a gun near to hand than it is otherwise.

In summary, yes, sometimes personal freedoms need to be curtailed for the greater good. Is this not, in essence, the basis of all legal and regulatory systems? Would the human species be more successful if we all operated autonomously?

[Hauldren Collider]

Oh, so some people, like university attendands should have other treatments than say ordinary youths working more humble ways ?

It's kind of funny that an american would state such a disregard to equality to the law.

You're being an idiot. Universities have a lot of young people densely populated in close proximity to each other who are out in the world for the first time. This really isn't true any other setting. It's not "unequal" except in the sense that there is no other place where young people without much life experience are clustered together so densely.