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With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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Originally posted by ricketyclik View PostIn summary, yes, sometimes personal freedoms need to be curtailed for the greater good. Is this not, in essence, the basis of all legal and regulatory systems? Would the human species be more successful if we all operated autonomously?
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Originally posted by BlackCat View PostYeah, and then they are allowed to commit smaller crimes that outside the university are punished ? I have lived in two cities with large unversities and in neither there have been "special rules" for university attendants.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Also @ricketyclik, as a gun owner, I'm not going to give up my right to own guns for hunting, target shooting, and self-defense just because some ******* in another state committed a crime that doesn't involve me in any way whatsoever. I have never shot anyone with any of my guns, and I don't anticipate anyone ever shooting someone with my guns. American society is not built upon people giving up their freedom over unrelated actions by other people.
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostHis ability to murder people is already curtailed. That is already illegal.
He also acquired guns illegally. In order to murder people, which is illegal. Moreover he brought guns onto a school campus, which is illegal. He violated the law three times. Clearly if only there were four laws being violated this would never have happened.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostThere are no special rules. The police are just trained to deal with youth instead, and look the other way for things like underage drinking.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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Originally posted by ricketyclik View PostIt's the central point in the gun law debate - no gun starts its life as an illegal gun.
For academic use only.John Brown did nothing wrong.
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Originally posted by regexcellent View Post...um, are you saying that everyone who has ever owned a gun or a knife has murdered someone? Or are you just not very fluent in English?With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostBlackCat is obviously not literate enough in english to be worth the effort to communicate with.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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Originally posted by MOBIUSIf he had been Welsh, he wouldn't have had access to guns and probably raped a sheep instead.
Moral of the story: no one would have died!With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
Steven Weinberg
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Originally posted by Felch View Post
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostHis ability to murder people is already curtailed. That is already illegal. He also acquired guns illegally. In order to murder people, which is illegal. Moreover he brought guns onto a school campus, which is illegal. He violated the law three times. Clearly if only there were four laws being violated this would never have happened.
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Originally posted by regexcellent View PostI have never shot anyone with any of my guns, and I don't anticipate anyone ever shooting someone with my guns.
Originally posted by regexcellent View PostAmerican society is not built upon people giving up their freedom over unrelated actions by other people.
What if I argued that I should be able to travel down the road at 100 mph because I've done so many times without killing anyone? Just because someone else did it doesn't mean it'll happen to me.
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