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  • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
    I think traitors would be the wrong word, gribbler. While I would agree that ostensibly the war was fought over slavery, I think your average Johnny Rebel was probably fighting for his homeland against the invading Yankees and for the perceived violation of his state's sovereignty. So the question is, traitors to who? Certainly not to their homes.
    Traitors to the United States, duh.

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    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
      That's all I was trying to say and I'm glad another poster posted it. If people have to go South to find freedom, doesn't that speak volumes?
      That's all you were trying to say? NO! That's not what you were saying AT ****ING ALL!

      YOU SAID THE SOUTH WON THE CIVIL WAR!

      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post

      There was a war over that and the south lost. Sorry.
      Really? I could have sworn otherwise.

      Holy ****!
      "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
      "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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      • Ben? Dishonest? No way...
        If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
        ){ :|:& };:

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        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
          Partially, yes, but that doesn't explain places like Arizona, Texas or Florida having tremendously more influence now than pre 1860, or even pre 1950. With trends as they are, TX could eventually exceed CA in population. CA's growth in the past 10 years has been very flat.
          Ben, did Mexico win the Mexican-American War?
          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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          • You mean the freedom to have the government tell an employer that they can't make a specific type of contract with a union?
            The freedom actually work without being a slave to a union. This has the effect of increasing worker take home pay (through not having to pay union dues), and decreasing employer costs at the same time.

            Everybody wins, except the unions.
            Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
            "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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            • That's all you were trying to say? NO! That's not what you were saying AT ****ING ALL!
              English? Do you speak it? Hablar espanol?
              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
              2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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              • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                Ben? Dishonest? No way...
                That anyone would be so brazen is mind-boggling to me. He's caught with his hand in the cookie jar, a mouthful of cookies, his mouth covered in cookie crumbs, saying he didn't take any cookies!
                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                • Except for the fact that I go on to lay out my thesis which you said was beyond your comprehension.

                  Hence, English! Do you speak it?
                  Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                  "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                  2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                    The freedom actually work without being a slave to a union. This has the effect of increasing worker take home pay (through not having to pay union dues), and decreasing employer costs at the same time.

                    Everybody wins, except the unions.
                    People already have that freedom, since no one is forced to work at a union shop. If they don't like working at a union shop, they can just quit their job and look for work elsewhere.

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                    • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                      English? Do you speak it? Hablar espanol?
                      Wow, you don't sound like a douchebag at all.

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                      • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                        Except for the fact that I go on to lay out my thesis which you said was beyond your comprehension.

                        Hence, English! Do you speak it?
                        Except your "thesis" is retarded.

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                        • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                          This has the effect of increasing worker take home pay (through not having to pay union dues.
                          No, fool! The collective bargaining agreement most definitely provides them with an inflated wage that more than makes up for the cost of the union dues. The issue is that by paying these above market rate wages, companies (and the unions themselves) are more restrictive on hiring.

                          Being in a union is, on average, materially beneficial to the employed worker since a CBA gives the average worker more bargaining power than themselves alone. That doesn't mean it's good for exceptional employees, the company, the consumer, the economy, or anyone else.
                          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
                            English? Do you speak it? Hablar espanol?
                            CONJUGATE YOUR VERB!

                            HABLAS!

                            Or matter fact, show your better some respect and use Habla!
                            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                            • People already have that freedom, since no one is forced to work at a union shop. If they don't like working at a union shop, they can just quit their job and look for work elsewhere.
                              I rather like the fact that I can work where I want to work and unions can't do jack. Why are you defending slavery?
                              Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                              "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                              2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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                              • Wow, you don't sound like a douchebag at all.
                                Thanks for the compliment. Much obliged.
                                Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                                "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
                                2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!

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