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  • #91
    Why is Jesus a socialist? I don't see how you can say that at all.

    He did say that the rich wouldn't find it very difficult to enter into heaven (camel / eye of the needle, etc).
    A wealthy man trusts in himself and in money, not in God. Look at the parable of the talents. The one who buries his money and does nothing with it is the one who is cursed. I can't see how that can be interpreted as contrary to capitalism. Use your money to earn more money.
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    • #92
      But he can't get into heaven... unless camels can easily get through the eye of heaven.

      Jesus was setting up a commune for ****'s sake! How is that not socialist? He sure as Hell wasn't starting businesses. Healings for 10 shekels here! Wine from water for 30 shekels!
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      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • #93
        I like Jennifer Connelly, she's way curvier than either of your choices. Helfer is ok, but only because she is from AB.
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        • #94
          I do like that some religious people think that capitalism is concurrent with their beliefs... that just shows how capitalism has tore it apart (as capitalism likes to do). Capitalism is a radical philosophy. It wants to strip away traditions in favor of the market and giving everything a price.

          This is why old school conservatives were always wary of too much free market. Because of the creative destructiveness of capitalism.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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          • #95
            Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
            I like Jennifer Connelly, she's way curvier than either of your choices. Helfer is ok, but only because she is from AB.
            NY State for the win

            A pretty blue state, may I add .
            “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
            - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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            • #96
              Now this is what I call a threadjacking!
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              • #97
                You are welcome.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #98
                  Jesus was setting up a commune for ****'s sake! How is that not socialist? He sure as Hell wasn't starting businesses. Healings for 10 shekels here! Wine from water for 30 shekels!
                  No, because he had no need for money. He believed that the job of the Church was to spread the Gospel to man, not sell stuff. The disciples he instructed to own things in common as they were Christ's servants.

                  Christ wasn't an ascetic. He stayed in rich people's homes. He feasted with the rich people. How on earth can you say that he hated them?
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                  • #99
                    I do like that some religious people think that capitalism is concurrent with their beliefs... that just shows how capitalism has tore it apart (as capitalism likes to do). Capitalism is a radical philosophy. It wants to strip away traditions in favor of the market and giving everything a price.
                    Capitalism likes social stability. I can't see how you say otherwise. It really isn't a radical philosophy, it doesn't claim to be an organising principle of life. Christianity on the other hand is all of these things. Christianity claims to be transcendent beyond the material world, while Capitalism is a materialist principle, that concerns only how the market works, and how best to organise things necessary for profit and well-being of society. How can capitalism put a price on faith? It can't and it doesn't try to do so.

                    This is why old school conservatives were always wary of too much free market. Because of the creative destructiveness of capitalism.
                    Well I'm a Burkean, so I'm not from that school Free-market, free trade, free religion.
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                    • A pretty blue state, may I add
                      Upstate New York is pretty solidly red.
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                      • I see that if Ben's soulmate isn't "curvy" enough, their odds of meeting go down precipitously.
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                          • She needs a Poly-name, like Galnemer.

                            I nominate "Felok".
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                            • Eloka
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                              • I see that if Ben's soulmate isn't "curvy" enough, their odds of meeting go down precipitously.
                                We all have our preferences. I'll bet Mrs. Rabbit is a looker.
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