The OFFICIAL United States Presidential Election Thread! III

[GhengisFarb™]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Damn, you leave this place for a few weeks and, when you come back, all the liberal excuses for failure have changed. This place is just to high-speed for me...

Don't worry, they cycle around eventually. Kinda like bell bottoms..........

[Drake Tungsten]

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Oerdin


A more likely explination was that since Republicans campaigned much harder this time he was able to get out his base more effectively.

They commented on Fox last night (when it looked like the exit polls were complete ****) that the numbers of voters in the panhandle/I59-corridor were dramatically higher compared to 2000 and that the percentage repubs was much higher than expected. That may have been because the repubs campaigned harder in Florida, but so too did the dems. I think that this Florida vote (especially in the panhandle where the polls close later) was a backlash against the media actions in 2000.

[Ramo]

That was last week, Drake! It's now this week - keep up!

I just said that I was wrong regarding party ID. Dunno what your point was.

[Ned]

Chris Matthews said this morning that the Dems strategy may be wrong. He said that they now concede the South and the West (not the Left Coast) for starters, and compete in the North, Midwest and the Left Coast. This strategy has produced two consecutive electoral college defeats.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You'd figure a reference to the Whigs would be enough to mark a post as facetious...

I still got two serious responses to it .

[Ramo]

Damn, you leave this place for a few weeks and, when you come back, all the liberal excuses for failure have changed. This place is just to high-speed for me...

I never said that Kerry ran a good campaign, in fact I've been saying that it was pretty damn incompetent up till mid-September or so. I was simply stating the reasons for the dissonance between common wisdom of the pollsters and the results.

[Drake Tungsten]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

You'd figure a reference to the Whigs would be enough to mark a post as facetious...

I still got two serious responses to it .

It's good to see something go right for you...

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Ramo
There's gonna be some vicious infighting in the Democratic Party, though. No question about it. And it's needed, IMO.

And which way do you predict it to go? A shift to the left or back to the right? Personally, I think if the dems are smart they'll forget about Hilary in 08 and look for a centrist who will have a chance to take a few southern states. It'll be too soon for Obama, otherwise I'd say he's a shoe-in for the nomination.

[JohnT]

AP reports that Kerry just called Bush to concede election!

[Jack_www]

I just heard on the news, that kerry may have just conceded.

[alva]

Kerry's rumoured to make an appearance soon.

[Drake Tungsten]

Originally posted by Ramo
I was simply stating the reasons for the dissonance between common wisdom of the pollsters and the results.

What common wisdom? I stopped paying serious attention to the polls weeks ago exactly because there was no common wisdom...

[Ben Kenobi]

Interestingly, with 4% of the votes still left to be cast, Bush Jr. smashes the total vote record held by none other than the Reagan in 84. Gore did not have the plurality record, and neither did Kerry in this election, manage to match Reagan.

57 million for Bush Jr.
51 million for Gore
47 million for Clinton
44 million for Clinton
48 million for Bush Sr.
54 million for Reagan
43 million for Reagan

[Ned]

Originally posted by alva
Another great day for religion

In a way. It seems that the Dem party is too far out in front of the bulk of the nation on social values.