The OFFICIAL United States Presidential Election Thread! III

[Robert]

Why is Winconsin called with only a 24000 difference while Iowa (16000 difference) and New Mexico (12000 difference) aren't called yet.

While Winconsin is a bigger state, so in % the race is even more close overthere then in Iowa and NM.

WHY?

[Drake Tungsten]

Why isn't Ohio called with a ~140,000 vote difference? The media doesn't want to admit that their boy lost...

[Drake Tungsten]

KERREY: Well, I hope Marc's right. I hope it doesn't happen but my guess is and I don't have any influence over John Kerry and the DNC. My advice to him would be not to litigate.

KING: Not to litigate?


KERREY: Not to litigate. I mean, look, you've got an exceptionally difficult period in the history of mankind. I disagree with Marc on why it's troubled times. I think it's part troubled because of the way the Iraq War has been conducted but it is a troubled time, a difficult time and not to have a president of the United States inaugurated and a peaceful transition one way or the other (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
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But I would prefer that I mean if it's a close -- if it's close and there's an opportunity to litigate, I would say to John Kerry don't litigate. Let Bush be the president.

Bob Kerrey

Is Kerry going to take the high road and concede?

[aaglo]

So, what's up with the chad's of Ohio?

I think that the 250 000 uncounted votes from Ohio are mail-votes from oversees - from the soldiers and such. And those 250 000 votes could change the 140 000 vote difference.

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

KERREY: Well, I hope Marc's right. I hope it doesn't happen but my guess is and I don't have any influence over John Kerry and the DNC. My advice to him would be not to litigate.

KING: Not to litigate?


KERREY: Not to litigate. I mean, look, you've got an exceptionally difficult period in the history of mankind. I disagree with Marc on why it's troubled times. I think it's part troubled because of the way the Iraq War has been conducted but it is a troubled time, a difficult time and not to have a president of the United States inaugurated and a peaceful transition one way or the other (UNINTELLIGIBLE).
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But I would prefer that I mean if it's a close -- if it's close and there's an opportunity to litigate, I would say to John Kerry don't litigate. Let Bush be the president.

Bob Kerrey

Is Kerry going to take the high road and concede?

No.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Oerdin


To be fair the Republicans were sending up very partisan legislation and the minority party has few options other then to filibuster. Filibustering was something the Republicans often did when they were the minority party so it is two faced to whine about it now.

I can't remember a single instance of the Republicans (as opposed to a Republican or two) filibustering when they were in the minority of the Senate, do you have a cite? Filibusters have been extremely rare for several decades now, procedural delays are in now.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by aaglo
So, what's up with the chad's of Ohio?

I think that the 250 000 uncounted votes from Ohio are mail-votes from oversees - from the soldiers and such. And those 250 000 votes could change the 140 000 vote difference.

Kerry is choosing to drag himself, and the Republic, through the mud.

Kerry.

Even Nixon didn't do it.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Drachasor


Kerry is responsible for his campaign manager.

As hard as it is to admit, he should have started off with the harsher and less honest tactics he ended up using. Those tactics work best in the current environment. It is his fault for not reading the system and the people as well as he should of, and not getting the best manager.

His campaign was pretty weak, considering everything there was to throw at Bush.*

-Drachasor

*And I am not talking about Moore-ian crap.

Ha ha, turd sandwich beat douche bag! The only pleasure I take from it is that it upsets your paranoid little mind.

[Drake Tungsten]

I can't say I'm surprised that the Dems can't concede defeat, again. Not really close enough for them to whine for the next 4 years, though...

[Gibsie]

Fox estimates it's 269 - 242, CNN says 254 - 252 right now. If I wanted wishful thinking rather than to know what's actually going on, I'd have gone to the BBC's website.

[Gangerolf]

Isn't it only fair that all the votes are counted?

[aaglo]

Andy Card from the White house just announced GWBush to be the winner! He also says, that Bush got more votes than any other president candidate in the history of USA (sorry, I'd have only a finnish link to provide).

[Jaguar]

Originally posted by Gangerolf
Isn't it only fair that all the votes are counted?

Those votes will be counted. But we don't need to pretend that the election isn't decided when, in fact, it is.

[Datajack Franit]

Kerry's face

[Gangerolf]

Kerry still has a (very small) chance. And in light of what happened in 2000 it's not surprising that they want to wait before they concede defeat.