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  • Originally posted by GhengisFarb

    Yeah but look what happens when you average that with his reelection percentage..........
    The same thing that happens to Bush the younger?
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    • hey, US population has increased since the 80s, it only makes sense for their to be more votes.
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      • And which way do you predict it to go? A shift to the left or back to the right? Personally, I think if the dems are smart they'll forget about Hilary in 08 and look for a centrist who will have a chance to take a few southern states. It'll be too soon for Obama, otherwise I'd say he's a shoe-in for the nomination.


        Actually, Hillary is more right-wing than Obama. Dunno if he'd have the experience though (he wouldn't even have a full Senate term), but he'd definitely be a candidate in 8 or 12 years. And I don't think he'd bail on his constituents. I'm hoping for Feingold, personally.

        The DNC will be seriously be assaulted by the grass roots, though. McAuliffe will get the **** beaten out of him.
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        • yep, it looks like Kerry will concede.
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          • KERRY HAS ALREADY CONCEEDED.

            That's all folks.

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            • What common wisdom? I stopped paying serious attention to the polls weeks ago exactly because there was no common wisdom...


              Everything pointed to a Kerry victory, in theory. Incumbent rule, voter turnout, etc. etc. It all turned out to be wrong.
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              • I am glad that Kerry conceeded. IT would have made for a uguly result if he tried to fight now with him losing the popular vote.
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                • FOXNews.com reporting Kerry calling Bush to concede.
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                  • Well, even given the increase in population, Clinton never managed to gain more votes than Nixon's previous record in 72, let alone Ronald Reagan.

                    Another interesting thing to note, is that Democrats have not held this record since LBJ in 64. None of the Democrat wins represented highwater marks of the popular vote.

                    So what is this myth that higher turnout benefits Democrats?
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                    • Kerry's consession was just a bit late for my tastes.

                      Let's hope he says something to his followers that brings them back to reality.
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                      • Hey, Ben, have you checked our your "wager" thread?

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                        • A bit late? When was he supposed to concede, before the election?
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                          • Well, even given the increase in population, Clinton never managed to gain more votes than Nixon's previous record in 72, let alone Ronald Reagan.


                            Well, you did have 3 people running, didn't you.
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                            • Thaaaaaat's All Folks.

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                              • They thought that a higher turnout by young voters and minorities would give the Democratics the lead that they needed. Also many say Republicans already have a high turn out, and the Democratics got a lot of new voters to register.
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