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  • I do believe I'm being ignored by NYE.
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    • Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
      Where do you live, NYE?
      Saskatchewan... I think.
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      • Originally posted by Oerdin


        ?!!?!!

        Didn't you just get done *****ing for two pages about soft wood and cows?
        Softwood predates Bush by 10 plus years.

        Bush may be omnipotent in the minds of the conspiracy theorists, but he's a gelding compared to Prime Ministers.

        The end to the cattle problem has not been in the administration, AFAIK, it has been in Congress.
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        • And Bush isn't going to change that, now is he? If you think he is provide proof.

          So what can Kerry do to make that issue worse?

          You said your concern was the "fair trade" stance of Kerry, but that doesn't apply here.

          So again, why do you think Kerry is going to be worse here than Bush?

          -Drachasor
          "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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          • Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
            Where do you live, NYE?
            Canada's Utah.
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            • Originally posted by notyoueither
              Softwood predates Bush by 10 plus years.

              Bush may be omnipotent in the minds of the conspiracy theorists, but he's a gelding compared to Prime Ministers.

              The end to the cattle problem has not been in the administration, AFAIK, it has been in Congress.
              Yes, but Bush has put up a big fight in the WTO and he's refused to do much negotiating.
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              • Originally posted by notyoueither
                Canada's Utah.
                Oh, Alberta.
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                • Yep.
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                  • Or Texas.

                    There's only ten of us, so each one has to try harder.
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                    • Originally posted by notyoueither
                      1. I'm glad Sadddam is gone.

                      2. I think Kyoto is deeply flawed.

                      3. Most people where I live agree with me.

                      You really should not greet opinion on Poly as universal. That is a very big mistake.
                      1. Most people think dislike of a leader doesn't justify a war (otherwise Castro and many, many others would be gone). Saddam was not a threat and America rushed to war. Many in America and especially the rest of the world have a problem of this. The majority in Canada do.

                      2. Most people around the world think that if there is a problem with a treaty, then you don't summarily denounce it and leave negatiations that have been going on for a long time. Instead you work with the other nations of the world to fix the problems.

                      3. Most people in Canada agree with the above.

                      Oh, and if anything Kerry's more genuine and fervent desire to win international aid in Iraq would encourage him to do work on the issues you worry about. Bush doesn't believe in working out such diplomatic relations.

                      -Drachasor
                      "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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                      • C'mon, get up and voting already you lazy buggers !!!!
                        I need some exit poll results....now!!!!
                        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                        Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                        • Originally posted by Oerdin


                          Yes, but Bush has put up a big fight in the WTO and he's refused to do much negotiating.
                          You're right. Bush hasn't been great, but at least he makes encouraging noises about ending it and making nice.

                          Kerry makes noises about inflaming things. Who should I favour?
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                          • Originally posted by Drachasor


                            1. Most people think dislike of a leader doesn't justify a war (otherwise Castro and many, many others would be gone). Saddam was not a threat and America rushed to war. Many in America and especially the rest of the world have a problem of this. The majority in Canada do.

                            2. Most people around the world think that if there is a problem with a treaty, then you don't summarily denounce it and leave negatiations that have been going on for a long time. Instead you work with the other nations of the world to fix the problems.

                            3. Most people in Canada agree with the above.

                            Oh, and if anything Kerry's more genuine and fervent desire to win international aid in Iraq would encourage him to do work on the issues you worry about. Bush doesn't believe in working out such diplomatic relations.

                            -Drachasor
                            1. Not the majority from where I live, if in the entire nation.

                            2. Most people around here think that you would be retarded to sign a treaty that is really bad, if only because other people want you to.

                            3. I doubt it.

                            Oh, and the last thing I want is the President of the United States coming to Ottawa to suck some **** to get Canadian troops to Iraq.

                            You guys broke it. You guys fix it.
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                            • *sigh* whatever.

                              Anyhow, this isn't an issue that is going to sway the election, so I am just going to let it die here. If you want to discuss it more, make a new thread on it.

                              -Drachasor
                              "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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