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  • Originally posted by notyoueither
    It's a ***** it's been found in the US then too, eh?
    Yes, but in a Canadian cow.
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    • Dan is supposed to chime in here about how I shouldn't be so concerned about American politics.

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      • And now, for something completely different...

        Votes From the Dead May Still Be Counted

        Sun Oct 31, 6:43 PM ET Elections - AP


        By ALLEN G. BREED, Associated Press Writer

        RALEIGH, N.C. - An untold number of ballots from people who have died since casting them will be counted this year because of the haphazard and cumbersome process of enforcing laws in many states to weed out these votes.


        With millions of voters taking advantage of new, in-person early voting in at least 30 states this year, it's even more likely that such "ghost" votes will be counted because, in most cases, those ballots are impossible to retrieve. Besides, it could be days or weeks after the election before local officials get word someone has died.


        Earlier this month, in what would be her last conscious act, 90-year-old Trixie Porter gripped a pen in her weak, trembling hand, checked the candidates of her choice and scrawled a squiggled signature on her absentee ballot.


        Within an hour, the petite woman who had been suffering from heart problems lay back in her hospital bed, closed her eyes and never woke up. Her ballot arrived at her local elections board two days later, Oct. 5 — the day she died.

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        • Originally posted by notyoueither
          Screw you, Jack.

          These are major issues, to me and most people who live within a thousand miles of me.

          Now explain how Kerry is gonna make it all better, and not worse. Isn't that where it started?
          Your stupid cows and wood are not major issues in the Presidential Election, and if you think so you are grossly unaware of what has been going on in the last 4 years. There are simply bigger issues at stake.

          In any case, Bush certainly isn't going to do anything to change the situation. Kerry probably won't either, though if there is some WTO oddity then he'll probably work to correct it (given what else he wants to accomplish regarding China and the like). Still, it is a pretty minor issue, and it isn't likely to change with either candidate.

          -Drachasor
          "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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          • Originally posted by Oerdin


            Yes, but in a Canadian cow.
            We maintain the diseased strain came north from Montana.

            How can you prove it?

            The border was nothing. Cattle moved back and forth with little or no restriction, before one bad cow.
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            • Originally posted by The Mad Monk
              And now, for something completely different...


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              And dang right they should be able to vote.

              Are you suggesting that if someone spends their last concious hours filling out a ballot to vote, then their last wishes and desires should be ignored? How disrespectful.

              -Drachasor
              "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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              • Originally posted by Drachasor
                Your stupid cows and wood are not major issues in the Presidential Election, and if you think so you are grossly unaware of what has been going on in the last 4 years. There are simply bigger issues at stake.

                In any case, Bush certainly isn't going to do anything to change the situation. Kerry probably won't either, though if there is some WTO oddity then he'll probably work to correct it (given what else he wants to accomplish regarding China and the like). Still, it is a pretty minor issue, and it isn't likely to change with either candidate.

                -Drachasor
                You know what? You can go **** youirself. You know why?

                Because, not only are our cows and trees a part of your politics, but some of my neighbours are off in Afghanistan fighting, and bleeding, in a war due to the US being attacked.

                You want bigger issues? How about going off to die for a bunch of ingrates who wouldn't know how to honour a trade agreement if it jumped onto their face and sucked the life out of them.
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                • I'm not suggesting anything, it's already illegal. Not that I'm disagreeing with you.

                  When living people usurp the names of the dead to vote multiple times, on the other hand, I get very annoyed.
                  No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                  • Originally posted by notyoueither


                    You know what? You can go **** youirself. You know why?

                    Because, not only are our cows and trees a part of your politics, but some of my neighbours are off in Afghanistan fighting, and bleeding, in a war due to the US being attacked.
                    Which is a bigger issue than minor trade disputes. There is a lot more at stake and all you are doing is complaining about something that neither candidate is likely to change. That's why it isn't a worthwhile topic in this thread. There is political merit to the discussion, but it isn't a major issue in the current election in any sense.

                    I do not disregard the sacrifice of the brave Canadian soldiers, nor did I ever suggest what they do is not valued. They aren't related to the trade issue, however.

                    -Drachasor
                    "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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                    • Originally posted by The Mad Monk
                      I'm not suggesting anything, it's already illegal. Not that I'm disagreeing with you.

                      When living people usurp the names of the dead to vote multiple times, on the other hand, I get very annoyed.
                      Neither is going to be a very big issue however.

                      The votes would have to be very, very close for either to matter (experts agree on this). I don't think this is going to happen.

                      -Drachasor
                      "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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                      • Um.

                        I thought the votes are projected to be very, very close...
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                        • Originally posted by notyoueither
                          We maintain the diseased strain came north from Montana.

                          How can you prove it?

                          The border was nothing. Cattle moved back and forth with little or no restriction, before one bad cow.
                          That all of the diseased cows found so far all came from Canada?
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                          • Originally posted by Drachasor


                            Which is a bigger issue than minor trade disputes. There is a lot more at stake and all you are doing is complaining about something that neither candidate is likely to change. That's why it isn't a worthwhile topic in this thread. There is political merit to the discussion, but it isn't a major issue in the current election in any sense.

                            I do not disregard the sacrifice of the brave Canadian soldiers, nor did I ever suggest what they do is not valued. They aren't related to the trade issue, however.

                            -Drachasor
                            I disagree that these are 'minor' trade disputes. These 'minor' trade disputes have a large impact on a third of the population of Canada. How minor is that?

                            I disagree that Bush and Kerry are equal on trade. I think Kerry will be a lot worse than Bush.

                            And I am accutely aware of the issue of the last 4 years. What I wonder about is if the Yanks understand how it plays to a family that loses a son in Afghanistan when their trees or their cows are given a hard time at the border.

                            How would you take it?
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                            • Originally posted by The Mad Monk
                              Um.

                              I thought the votes are projected to be very, very close...
                              Undecided voters typically go to the challenger (Kerry), high voter turnouts help the Democrats and aren't handled well by polls (Kerry), cell-phone users can't be polled by traditionally phone calls (they favor Kerry), and college students are turning out in record numbers (they favor Kerry).

                              As the 2000 Election had Gore down by 5 points or so the day before the Election, this year the polls will be off again.

                              I doubt it will be nearly as close as people think it will be. If the difference is even 10,000 votes that is far larger than any fraud will be, though it might not handle the voter suppression tactics.*

                              -Drachasor

                              *This is much larger than any potential fraud issue.
                              "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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                              • Vote Kerry
                                "Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
                                "That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the world

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