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  • Originally posted by notyoueither
    OK. I will try.

    How would you feel if your soldiers went off to fight and die for an ally that then disregaurded trade agreements to gain an advantage?

    Translation: do you have a clue why the world complains about the US?
    1. Neither candidate is going to be that different from the other on this.

    2. There are other much, much larger issues.

    3. Overall U.S.-Canadian relations are not that bad (beyond their dislike of Bush, of course).

    4. I would be annoyed about the trade issues, but there is more thna just a couple trade issues between the U.S. and Canada; most of the relationship is positive.

    5. I know why the world complains about the U.S., and if you read my posts when such things come up you'd see that.

    -Drachasor
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    • 5b. Bush is largely a charicature of the main reasons why the rest of the world has problems with the U.S. He's pushy, arrogant, thinks America is far better than any other country, and is quite disrespectful to our allies.

      -Drachasor
      "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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      • 1. You posit. I don't believe it.

        2. Not to me.

        3. You are sorely mistaken. Canadian-American relations are at a low point. It might have someting to do with how you've treated softwood and cows, but most likely has more to do with Iraq, at least to Easterners. People who would normally be favourably disposed to US policy are having a hard time staying onside after being ****ed over. Understand?

        4. It's nice that you think it's all positive. I invite you to wake up and smell the coffee.

        5. Then why do you want to argue the reasons that US gets rightfully toasted? Is it you can't stand the slagging if it isn't by a Yank?
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        • The world doesn't have ANY problems with the US! Except for those countries with brownpeople, but they just can't accept the fact that the US is the greatest country the world has ever known and that no country can even begin to compare to the greatness of the US The entire world loves the US! Right, NYE?
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          • Originally posted by Drachasor
            5b. Bush is largely a charicature of the main reasons why the rest of the world has problems with the U.S. He's pushy, arrogant, thinks America is far better than any other country, and is quite disrespectful to our allies.

            -Drachasor
            Actually, you cover that very well.
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            • Well, there's the whole Bush fiasco that has damaged the relationship. Before Bush was elected things were quite good, that's my understanding.

              My apologies on not emphasizing that enough (Bush encompasses more than just Iraq, but Iraq is probably the first thing that comes to mind).

              -Drachasor
              "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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              • I'd think the Iraq issue or your soldiers might be more important to you, Notyoueither.

                In any case, I have seen no good evidence that Kerry would implement trade policies that are bad for Canada. You certainly haven't presented anything.

                -Drachasor
                "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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                • You would be wrong, from your partisan POV.

                  Bush hasn't been the problem, from where I live.
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                  • Originally posted by Drachasor
                    In any case, I have seen no good evidence that Kerry would implement trade policies that are bad for Canada. You certainly haven't presented anything.

                    -Drachasor
                    Again. Explain 'fair' trade.
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                    • Originally posted by notyoueither
                      You would be wrong, from your partisan POV.

                      Bush hasn't been the problem, from where I live.
                      Oh, so people like how Bush acts in the world? Their perception of America hasn't been changed by Iraq, our withdrawing from the ICC or Kyoto treaties, and generally the belligerance that Bush has had towards others?

                      Interesting. Overall, in the world and Canada, that isn't the case. According to polls anyhow.

                      -Drachasor
                      "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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                      • Originally posted by notyoueither
                        Again. Explain 'fair' trade.
                        How many times do I have to explain it?

                        It is about environmental and worker protections.

                        If you read the links I put out, you'd see that Kerry thinks Chile meets these requirements. I am sure that Canada is better than Chile on this.

                        -Drachasor
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                        • 1. I'm glad Sadddam is gone.

                          2. I think Kyoto is deeply flawed.

                          3. Most people where I live agree with me.

                          You really should not greet opinion on Poly as universal. That is a very big mistake.
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                          • Where do you live, NYE?
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                            • Originally posted by notyoueither
                              You would be wrong, from your partisan POV.

                              Bush hasn't been the problem, from where I live.
                              ?!!?!!

                              Didn't you just get done *****ing for two pages about soft wood and cows?
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                              • Originally posted by Drachasor


                                How many times do I have to explain it?

                                It is about environmental and worker protections.

                                If you read the links I put out, you'd see that Kerry thinks Chile meets these requirements. I am sure that Canada is better than Chile on this.

                                -Drachasor
                                Except we are already struggling with it. And it has nothing to do with either of the things you describe.

                                Pay attention to the lumber dispute, please.
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