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I think Eurocoms just like to argue
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I think yankeetwats just like to shout "Jawohl, mein Führer".“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Have you ever seen a thread abot states rights and the US civil warOriginally posted by Ted Striker
I think Eurocoms just like to argue
Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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Just because the democracy in national countries could be better is not a reason to further integrate in a less democratic one.Originally posted by HershOstropoler
"The level of democracy and accountability is shocking."
Yeah, like most national situations are better. We'll see with how much lying and abuse of office Blair gets away soon, will be interesting.
As for the EU, it doesn't follow the classic parliamentary system. That has advantages and disadvantages. Here's a good article about the system:
But you are more interested in stereotype than fact, so I doubt it's useful to you.Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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And just because the EU's political system does not match some utopian dreamworld is not a reason not to further integrate.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Your people would know huh Roland.Originally posted by HershOstropoler
I think yankeetwats just like to shout "Jawohl, mein Führer".
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Oh, those are mostly argued by MTG and the libertarians.Originally posted by TheStinger
Have you ever seen a thread abot states rights and the US civil war
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Why should we iintergrate into something that is fundementally flawed, please tell me how giving extra powers to the EU will benefit meOriginally posted by HershOstropoler
And just because the EU's political system does not match some utopian dreamworld is not a reason not to further integrate.Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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I don't think it matches much of anything.Originally posted by HershOstropoler
And just because the EU's political system does not match some utopian dreamworld is not a reason not to further integrate.
It's done wonders for Deutschland.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Brits have the right idea by keeping their distance.Originally posted by TheStinger
Why should we iintergrate into something that is fundementally flawed, please tell me how giving extra powers to the EU will benefit me
UK!
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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hersh, i'm sorry but you are really talking out of your backside, pretty much any national government in europe is much (and i mean much) more accountable than the EU. blair is very often economical with the truth, but we can vote him out if we so chose, whereas the only european body we have a vote for is the parliament, which has very little actual power. we can't (directly at least) hold any other body in the EU to account, how is that even comparable with ANY national government?
we need a vote here in britain on the constitution, maybe at the same time as the euro vote (sometime never then
) so we can reject both. 
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EU is sort of like the UN of EuropeWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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yeah, only slightly more inept and corrupt
"The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de BottonComment
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Its notOriginally posted by Ted Striker
EU is sort of like the UN of EuropeSpace is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.
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Particularly when you've had 216 years to come up with fundamental improvements, and you have electricity, toilet paper (hell, even plumbing), and air conditioning to help write yours.Originally posted by TheStinger
Im not sure having a go at the US constitution strenghthens the arguments for a europpean one.
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