Brett Kavanaugh, great justice or greatest justice?

[Kidlicious]

Nope. I am just not responding to Berzerker on this issue. Thanks for showing concern, even if it's virtue signaling. I take what I can get.

[Aeson]

Apparently not, given her testimony.

If only you could address her testimony instead of try to make up things she didn't say.

She claims he was trying to take her clothes off, but doesn't actually describe his actions that would lead her to believe that this is what he was trying to do.

If you're so hard up that you need more details about how these things work, the internet is full of porn.

[Berzerker]

For whatever reason, my parent's door could be locked from the outside. It was double sided. Not that unusual.

Very unusuaI... I've never seen a bedroom door with locks on both sides, but I asked if you ever saw a bedroom door with a lock on the outside, doors with locks on both sides dont count. You said she claimed they locked her in, you're wrong, she didn't say that.

She explicitly states that she thought her life was in danger. Right alongside where she says she believed he was trying to rape her. I don't see how one accepts one and dismisses the other.

I dont dismiss either

Did Christine say that he took off his pants or took his dick out? No.

You said it couldn't be attempted rape if he kept his pants on, rapists dont need to remove their pants.

Enough here to show assault, but not rape, attempted or no.

She accused him of sexual assault, but a jury could have nailed him with attempted rape. He tried to forcibly have sex with her, the fact he was interrupted by Judge doesn't mean he's innocent of that crime.

And yet the incident is seared, seared into her memory.

The incident took place inside a room, why would she remember the house's address or location if she had never been there before? The fact you remember where you were attacked is irrelevant, you were already familiar with the building.

How was this sexual assault? Did he grab her boobs? Did he grab her crotch?

She said he physically pinned her to the bed grinding his pelvis (dick) into her while trying to remove her clothes. What would you call it? I dont know what all he grabbed, she can answer that better than me.

And, that is exactly my point. There's just not enough there, even if we assume that Christine is 100 percent telling the truth. Assault, yes. Sexual assault, no. Attempted rape? No.

Sexual assault... But I could go for attempted rape too if I was on his jury.

The all testified that she wasn't there for the parties that did happen. Ergo, none of them can put Kavanaugh with Christine at any point that summer. This is really open and shut, Berz.

They said they dont remember the specific party she described. I'd be suspicious if they actually said she never attended any parties.

Kavanaugh since he was the only one to keep record of it.

So the guy who was nearly drunk off his ass would remember it better than his victim? He wrote his calendar entry before the party, not after he got rip roaring drunk.

So why didn't she report it to her parents afterwards?

So after all that you're right back to "she didn't report it"? By your logic, anyone who is sexually assaulted and doesn't report it is lying. I can speculate, she didn't want them to know for a variety of reasons. Maybe her Dad would kill Brat. Or she'd get in trouble for drinking beer with drunk prep school boys. Or she didn't want to make waves cuz Brat and his buddies would make her life hell. No...no... thats not it. She kept quiet so one day she could derail his nomination to the SCOTUS.

[Ben Kenobi]

Maybe she didn't report it to her parents because she wasn't supposed to be out, or maybe she was embarrassed or afraid. Many things were not reported for even lesser reasons.

We can all play 'maybes'. Maybe because it never happened.

[Berzerker]

maybe it did and you dont care

[Ben Kenobi]

If only you could address her testimony instead of try to make up things she didn't say.

I have. I find it rather funny that you completely dismiss her claims that she could have been killed, while at the same time insisting that she was 100 percent correct in her fears of being raped.

If you're so hard up that you need more details about how these things work, the internet is full of porn.

"I think he was trying to do x", is different from "he did x". This is where intent comes into play and "what did he actually do", to see if your interpretation of what you say he did is reasonable.

You yourself say that her assessment of the event was unreasonable in the case of attempted murder. Fair enough. But why then shouldn't we also question the rest of the narrative? I don't see any indication from her that he intended to rape, and certain details that she could have included she did not. So this makes me really curious why those details are missing and how she always seems to have a story to cover her broad inconsistencies.

Now personally, I'd not remember what music someone was playing 35 years ago, but apparently she can remember that and not the location of the house or how she got home.

[Berzerker]

she remembers what music was playing?

[Ben Kenobi]

I'd guess she was there without the permission of her parents, considering her age

She only had one and I'm sure that was the only time she was drinking when she was 15.

[Ben Kenobi]

Very unusuaI... I've never seen a bedroom door with locks on both sides, but I asked if you ever saw a bedroom door with a lock on the outside, doors with locks on both sides dont count. You said she claimed they locked her in, you're wrong, she didn't say that.

I have.

You said it couldn't be attempted rape if he kept his pants on, rapists dont need to remove their pants.

The only thing she said he did was grab her and try to pin her. As you yourself said that wasn't enough to convict for attempted rape, but assault. We aren't in disagreement here.

a jury could have nailed him with attempted rape.

Nope. Even you admitted there wasn't enough evidence, even assuming that her account was 100 percent true.

He tried to forcibly have sex with her, the fact he was interrupted by Judge doesn't mean he's innocent of that crime.

There's that word again. Do or do not. There is no "try". Did he rape her? No.

The incident took place inside a room, why would she remember the house's address or location if she had never been there before? The fact you remember where you were attacked is irrelevant, you were already familiar with the building.

Because the incident was supposedly seared into her memory? My thought, she knew that if she named a location it would be easy enough to disprove her story about the locks and the stairs in the house. And then nobody would believe her. Of course, it being 35 years ago, there might not have been a house or Kavanaugh.

They said they dont remember the specific party she described. I'd be suspicious if they actually said she never attended any parties.

Nobody said she never attended any parties at that age. None of the friends of her can place her in a party with Kavanaugh, which is not so hard to believe. Generally teenage boys, particularly seniors hang out with their own class and boys they go to school with. Source, a fellow teenage boy who did the same thing.

So the guy who was nearly drunk off his ass would remember it better than his victim?

As opposed to the drunk 15 year old?

He wrote his calendar entry before the party, not after he got rip roaring drunk.

Well, the way calendars tend to work is that you write them down before the event. You know, so you can remember what the hell you're planning to do.

By your logic, anyone who is sexually assaulted and doesn't report it is lying.

Anyone who waits 35 years who's partner can't recall them talking about a particular assault, and refuses to press civil charges, yeah I'm going to believe they are lying.

Or she didn't want to make waves cuz Brat and his buddies would make her life hell.

So she's going to wait 35 years and smear Kavanaugh to try to defeat his nomination?

The evidence I see suggests the following.

One, Ford has done three studies on abortion pills. She has an enormous professional and personal incentive to defeat Kavanaugh's nomination. Two, she read Judge's book and from there was able to obtain enough information about Kavanaugh and his friends to cobble together a fairly convincing narrative. Three, she posted that someone should have done that to Gorsuch, deletes all of it and then proceeds to do just that to Kavanaugh.

Four, as a professional psychologist, she constructed the narrative of her account, falsifying her encounter with Kavanaugh, and calling on the boys and her one "friend", whom she's not close to but it's someone she doesn't think will testify against her, or at the very least can be bullied into not testifying.

Five, she collects half a million from fellow travelers with the media circus around Kavanaugh, with the purpose of stalling the nomination until after the midterm elections, where Rs lose either the house or the Senate, and then Kav's nomination is off the table.

This explains all the evidence. One, why there's never any mention of Kavanaugh from Ford prior to this year. No written record, nothing. It explains her motivation to falsify and her reluctance to testify under oath (she could be stripped of her professional certs if proven). Three, her lie about not wanting to fly to DC while at the same time flying to Tahiti for vacation multiple times.

[Aeson]

Add attempted to the long list of words BK doesn’t know the definition of.

[Proteus_MST]

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There's that word again. Do or do not. There is no "try". Did he rape her? No.
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So, according to this logic, if a guy forces himself onto a woman, pulls off her panties and pulls out his Penis and tries to penetrate her ...
but the woman is able to flee before the penis touches her vagina, then it is not attempted rape, because he didn't penetrate her

[rah]

The evidence I see suggests the following.

One, Ford has done three studies on abortion pills. She has an enormous professional and personal incentive to defeat Kavanaugh's nomination. Two, she read Judge's book and from there was able to obtain enough information about Kavanaugh and his friends to cobble together a fairly convincing narrative. Three, she posted that someone should have done that to Gorsuch, deletes all of it and then proceeds to do just that to Kavanaugh.

Four, as a professional psychologist, she constructed the narrative of her account, falsifying her encounter with Kavanaugh, and calling on the boys and her one "friend", whom she's not close to but it's someone she doesn't think will testify against her, or at the very least can be bullied into not testifying.

Five, she collects half a million from fellow travelers with the media circus around Kavanaugh, with the purpose of stalling the nomination until after the midterm elections, where Rs lose either the house or the Senate, and then Kav's nomination is off the table.

This explains all the evidence. One, why there's never any mention of Kavanaugh from Ford prior to this year. No written record, nothing. It explains her motivation to falsify and her reluctance to testify under oath (she could be stripped of her professional certs if proven). Three, her lie about not wanting to fly to DC while at the same time flying to Tahiti for vacation multiple times.

Or the more simple explanation is that he was your typical entitled frat boy that liked beer and thought rules didn't apply to him. Using your own stupid type "proof" I knew plenty of these back then.

[ZEE]

I want to talk about Giancarlo soem moar. Without him this site will completely collapse.

He said so.

[spambot]

Never realized Yoda was talking about raping people!

[Kidlicious]

I want to talk about Giancarlo soem moar. Without him this site will completely collapse.

He said so.

The mid-term results are going to break him completely anyway.

[ZEE]

I will do my part. Republican all the way. Even though my mother is taking me to the voting place under the guise that I will vote for all her liberal bleeders. Daddy has taught me well

[spambot]

The mid-term results are going to break him completely anyway.

[ZEE]

Well, sorry to disappoint you guise, but I just ordered $50 worth of Chinese food and am going to watch movies and enjoy the food. People might ask me... AAHZ are you mad at what you have been through in life? My answer... NO!

Why would I be mad?! I have a loving family and I live on an estate in my own unit, I am financially stable even though I am between jobs and working with an agency that helps disabled people with an 11-year job behind me, I have an army of doctors ready to back me up in any case, the liquor flows like a river, I eat and fap whenever I want, my entire block loves me, and I am a trained master Shaman that can summon any demon I want no matter how trivial and am also an Oniromancer and Chriomancer. Not only have I beaten THIS life...

My afterlife looks pretty good as well. I have heard haters drive by me and scream and curse in anger when they saw me. The spirits know I am not joking. That dude that should have killed me 10 years ago is in deep **** with his OG. It turns me on a little and I have fapped to that.

I think I will let my nuts hang tonight.