Life begins at conception?

[Ben Kenobi]

No you don't you ****ing liar. That is not (and never has been) what 'No taxation without representation' means.

Do I have a say in how my tax dollars are spent? Absolutely, at least in Canada I have that right.

Please, please, please refuse to pay the IRS.

If I'm forced to pay for contraception - absolutely. I'll gladly sit in jail as long as need be.

[DinoDoc]

Given that the Catholic church facilitated the spread of AIDS to millions of people due to their preachings on contraception,

If people headed the RCC preachings, there wouldn't be the massive spread of AIDS in the areas you refer to. So in what way did they facilitate it?

[Ben Kenobi]

BK seems to think that losing elections is the same as "taxation without representation". We put that stuff to a vote. You lost. Go back to Canada if you are mad. We don't want you anyways.

Really. I'll go check what my employer says. Hmm. They say they really don't like this whole, 'forcing people to pay for contraception thingy'. They say it violates the free exercise clause of the First Amendment.

[kentonio]

Do I have a say in how my tax dollars are spent? Absolutely, at least in Canada I have that right.

Stop talking ****. Try telling the Canadian tax people that you're not going to pay half your taxes because you disagree with how they are being spent, and let us know how that works out for you.

If I'm forced to pay for contraception - absolutely. I'll gladly sit in jail as long as need be.

You're going to jail then.

Really. I'll go check what my employer says. Hmm. They say they really don't like this whole, 'forcing people to pay for contraception thingy'. They say it violates the free exercise clause of the First Amendment.

Why would anyone give a **** what your bible bashing theocratic employers have to say about anything?

[kentonio]

If people headed the RCC preachings, there wouldn't be the massive spread of AIDS in the areas you refer to. So in what way did they facilitate it?

Because it provided all the guys ****ing outside wedlock with a handy added excuse for not using protection. The RCC's preachings about abstinence meanwhile haven't worked since.. oh yeah, ever.

[Ben Kenobi]

Stop talking ****. Try telling the Canadian tax people that you're not going to pay half your taxes because you disagree with how they are being spent, and let us know how that works out for you.

After all the deductions? Worked out fine for me.

You're going to jail then.

Riiight. The atty general of Texas is just going to let the Feds come in. He's already gone on the record saying that nobody in Texas is going to pay squat.

Why would anyone give a **** what your bible bashing theocratic employers have to say about anything?

The Supreme Court of the United States?

[Ben Kenobi]

Because it provided all the guys ****ing outside wedlock with a handy added excuse for not using protection.

Perhaps then they should follow RCC teachings and not **** outside of wedlock.

[N35t0r]

I think if people want contraception they should pay for it themselves rather then asking me to pay for it.

So you would be OK with people who want vaccines to pay for those themselves rather than asking people who don't want them to pay?

[DinoDoc]

Because it provided all the guys ****ing outside wedlock with a handy added excuse for not using protection. The RCC's preachings about abstinence meanwhile haven't worked since.. oh yeah, ever.

So the issue here is people not following the preachings of the RCC? In what way are we to take your claim seriously that the RCC facilitated the spread of AIDS through their preachings if people decline to follow its teachings in this area?

[kentonio]

After all the deductions? Worked out fine for me.

You are completely full of ****. There might be specific deductions that allow for specifically stated contributions, but the idea that you can just chose what you do and don't pay taxes for is complete bull****.

Riiight. The atty general of Texas is just going to let the Feds come in. He's already gone on the record saying that nobody in Texas is going to pay squat.

If you think the IRS aren't going to claim their taxes then you're on crack.

The Supreme Court of the United States?

If they did, you wouldn't still be crying like a little girl about it.

[kentonio]

So the issue here is people not following the preachings of the RCC? In what way are we to take your claim seriously that the RCC facilitated the spread of AIDS through their preachings if people decline to follow its teachings in this area?

How about the aid workers and countless other people who have spent decades pleading with the Catholic church to stop their bull**** on account of the terrible effects its having on the spread of AIDS?

[Ben Kenobi]

So you would be OK with people who want vaccines to pay for those themselves rather than asking people who don't want them to pay?

That's a good question! I think vaccines should be covered because of the protective effect they provide, such as MMR and DPT. I don't think other vaccines should be covered because they don't work the same as those 6.

However - if it were to switch to private funding, that would be fine for me. I'd be calling on the Church to provide MMR and DPT to everyone in that case, as I would see it as part of our obligation.

[Ben Kenobi]

You are completely full of ****. There might be specific deductions that allow for specifically stated contributions, but the idea that you can just chose what you do and don't pay taxes for is complete bull****.

Logically I can say that I have paid my taxes and that I didn't want to pay half at the same time wrt Canadian taxes. Through the magic of deductions, this is possible.

Perhaps you should seek the advice of an 'accountant'. I hear they can help with this sort of things.

If you think the IRS aren't going to claim their taxes then you're on crack.

With respect to Obamacare, yes, yes, this is the case.

If they did, you wouldn't still be crying like a little girl about it.

The fact that Hobby Lobby is going to win their case means there is a good chance my employer will too.

[-Jrabbit]

Just when I was getting terminally bored with the Kidicious "men's rights" side of this thread, along comes Ben Kenobi.

A-plus to Sava for this trollrific thread.

[kentonio]

Logically I can say that I have paid my taxes and that I didn't want to pay half at the same time wrt Canadian taxes. Through the magic of deductions, this is possible.

Perhaps you should seek the advice of an 'accountant'. I hear they can help with this sort of things.

So therefore nothing to do with what you were actually claiming. Adding to the unending list of lies you've told.

With respect to Obamacare, yes, yes, this is the case.

Don't be ridiculous.

The fact that Hobby Lobby is going to win their case means there is a good chance my employer will too.

Guess we'll find out.