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  • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi View Post
    And people say that I'm the Fascist.

    And for a very good reason.
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    • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
      People already have that freedom, since no one is forced to work at a union shop. If they don't like working at a union shop, they can just quit their job and look for work elsewhere.
      This is idiotic.
      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
      Stadtluft Macht Frei
      Killing it is the new killing it
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      • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
        Please explain how a mutually consensual contract between an employer and a union is slavery. Nobody is forced to deal with a union because nobody is forced to work for an employer who made a consensual agreement with a union. You always have the option of looking for work elsewhere. It's funny how you support big government if the government is interfering with something you don't like.
        Are you really this stupid, or are you just toying with Ben?
        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
        Stadtluft Macht Frei
        Killing it is the new killing it
        Ultima Ratio Regum

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        • Originally posted by Thoth View Post
          Idiot. Unions aren't dying out in spite of what your corporate masters want you to think.


          If you want a decent deal from your corporate masters you'll need a union. Individual workers have no chance of getting a decent deal without a CBA.


          Translation: if you want to raise the marginal wage in your job at the expense of those who consume the goods you produce and at the expense of those who would otherwise be able to find employment then create a union.

          Emotive nonsense like "a decent deal" disguises this very real and very ugly sentiment.
          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
          Stadtluft Macht Frei
          Killing it is the new killing it
          Ultima Ratio Regum

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          • Originally posted by Thoth View Post
            Scum who take work away from honest people in the name of corporate profit are fair game.
            Nobody who belongs to a union is honest. They are all trash.
            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
            Stadtluft Macht Frei
            Killing it is the new killing it
            Ultima Ratio Regum

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            • KH:

              That's what, 7 percent of the total private workforce in 2004? I stand corrected.

              I'm seeing 2010 numbers at 6.9 in the private sector, the highest of which is utilities at around 20 percent.
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              • I don't vouch for the accuracy of the numbers. I know that the general trend is quite well-understood.
                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                Stadtluft Macht Frei
                Killing it is the new killing it
                Ultima Ratio Regum

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                • Interesting. Thanks for the correction.
                  Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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                  • Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                    This is idiotic.
                    Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                    Are you really this stupid, or are you just toying with Ben?
                    Doesn't Ben portray himself as some kind of libertarian?

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                    • Do you honestly not understand why a CBA is not a "voluntary" agreement on the part of the employer?

                      If you don't I will have to ask you to sit down and think for a while.
                      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                      Stadtluft Macht Frei
                      Killing it is the new killing it
                      Ultima Ratio Regum

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                      • In 2010, 7.6 million public sector employees belonged to a union, compared with 7.1
                        million union workers in the private sector.
                        http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.nr0.htm

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                        • ...Is that supposed to be a vindication of unions? More than half are actually just antidemocratic welfare queens. Sounds pretty ****ing bad to me.
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                          • Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                            Do you honestly not understand why a CBA is not a "voluntary" agreement on the part of the employer?

                            If you don't I will have to ask you to sit down and think for a while.
                            Do the union members put a gun to the employer's head or something?

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                            • No, but the police do...
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                              • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                                ...Is that supposed to be a vindication of unions? More than half are actually just antidemocratic welfare queens. Sounds pretty ****ing bad to me.
                                Just showing the numbers in that graph look right.

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