Britain versus The Pope

[Felch]

In clerical positions, certainly. In secular ones there is no biblical or legal reason for this exemption.

The OP only mentions "senior positions." This isn't about who gets hired to scrub toilets or file paperwork. These are going to be clergymen.

Think you'll find that had far more to do with still rebuilding an infrastructure shattered by WW2 coupled with the oil crisis.

Thirty years after, and you're still blaming your problems on the War? Germany was prosperous at much the same time. Wirtschaftswunder and all that.

Incidentally, if you think our libel laws are ridiculous just check out the Food Libel laws in numerous US states.

We don't have such laws in Maryland, and I am opposed to their existence elsewhere.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Do you even read what you post...

Let's see, not having to pay taxes like everybody else... gee, I wonder if that would be considered a benefit from the government... OF COURSE IT IS A BENEFIT FROM THE GOVERNMENT! DUH!

Well sure, except that the former is money that you've earned, the latter is getting money earned by other people.

Money that has been "earned" because of the legal and business system put into place by the government. I'm sure churches would have far less money if they had to provide for their own police and fire security.

[Imran Siddiqui]

The OP only mentions "senior positions." This isn't about who gets hired to scrub toilets or file paperwork. These are going to be clergymen.

You REALLY need to read better. From the OP:

Religious leaders have voiced concern that the Equality Bill could force churches to employ sexually active gay people and transsexuals when hiring staff other than priests or ministers.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

The OP only mentions "senior positions." This isn't about who gets hired to scrub toilets or file paperwork. These are going to be clergymen.

Read it properly, numpty.

Thirty years after, and you're still blaming your problems on the War? Germany was prosperous at much the same time. Wirtschaftswunder and all that.

Marshall Aid and all that. Britain didn't finish paying off its war debt until 2006.

We don't have such laws in Maryland, and I am opposed to their existence elsewhere.

Good for you. So am I. Let's get naked and ****, and then get jobs working for the Papists.

[onodera]

Regardless of any other point you make, let me assure you that the Catholic church receives extensive aid from the secular government. Foremost among the aid is its tax-exempt status as a charity, even where its profits are obtain from secular business.

Thank you. This is something to think about. But don't most charities supplement their donations with commercial income?

[Dauphin]

Charities are not permitted to carry out non-primary purpose trading, that is, where fundraising is the main or sole aim of the trading activities. This is because the general expectation is that contributions made to a charity will be used for its purposes, rather than being risked in trading activities simply to raise money. If a charity itself carries on a trade in order to raise further funds, it may not only be in breach of charity law, but may also incur tax liabilities on trading surpluses.

[Dauphin]

The charity may have a non-charitable trading arm as a separate entity that donates to the charity though.

[Felch]

I got bored after the first couple paragraphs, Britain received more Marshall Aid money than Germany did, and no thank you.

[Ben Kenobi]

Yes. Typically they set the top priority for selection to be Catholic baptism, followed by baptism to other Christian faiths.

But they do admit non-Catholics?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

I got bored after the first couple paragraphs, Britain received more Marshall Aid money than Germany did, and no thank you.

It sure did. It also pursued very expensive wars in Suez, Malaya and numerous other smaller ones. It also backed the ineffective EFTA, rather than the notably more effective EEC. It also saw successive Tory and Labour governments unwilling to tackle the glaringly obvious problem of overvalued sterling.

Attempts to boil down Britain's economic history over 30 years to a single issue isn't just missing the point. It's wearing a blindfold, sticking a finger in one's ears and going "LALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALALA!!!" to the point.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

But they do admit non-Catholics?

They are under no obligation to do so and are freely entitled to discriminate in favour of Catholics over Protestants.

Where the supply of school places exceeds demand by Catholic children, the schools are under no obligation to fill empty places with non-Catholics. However since certain state grants are linked to attendance numbers they may take the commercial decision to admit non-Catholics.

Don't ask if I approve of this.

[Felch]

It's an awesome way to get Brits all apoplectic.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

This is amused condescension. Apoplexy is swearier.

[Ben Kenobi]

They are under no obligation to do so and are freely entitled to discriminate in favour of Catholics over Protestants.

So they do admit non-Catholics as a matter of routine basis. Why the apoplexy? This is pretty much standard, and is the case here. Most people try to get their kids in Catholic schools because the quality of education is higher than in public schools.

It makes sense to me that a Catholic school would put a priority on educating Catholics.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Why are you desperate to go off on this tangent, Ben?

Incidentally, I'm still waiting for the explanation of why the Catholic church manages to avoid problems with all those other abominations when employing people in secular roles.