Pro-Life Means Protect the Earth

[MOBIUS]

it's something that for humans typicaly is activated around 13-15 years and the critters can do it without teaching.

God the paedophile.

[MOBIUS]

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Has to be at the right time of the month, which usually only happens if she's consistant at it. Most likely in marriage, and it's rather unlikely to be more than 10 or so.

BK giving advice on sex education!

I'm falling off the chair here guys - tears are streaming from my face!

[Theben]

I'm sure Ben thought Brave New World was a utopia, with hardly a sperm wasted making 1000's of babies.

[Ben Kenobi]

If we are going to look to the semantics, more like "The side that you think is the right".

Not always though...

[Ben Kenobi]

I'm sure Ben thought Brave New World was a utopia, with hardly a sperm wasted making 1000's of babies.

Sex AND babies. What's so hard to figure out?

[Berzerker]

Taken by the tone of the thread, I'd say the arguments are entirely pertinent. The environmental movement is one of the most anti-human movements that have ever existed.

you brought up the environmental movement and population control

I suspect you mean forced population control, populations tend to control themselves when children are no longer the primary source of care for the elderly.

Man is far more important than animals, and that this biblical viewpoint is consistantly held in scripture.

except when God is hungry or sending plagues to wipe us out, right?

[BlackCat]

Do you even understand fertility, at all?

Sure I do

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Has to be at the right time of the month, which usually only happens if she's consistant at it. Most likely in marriage, and it's rather unlikely to be more than 10 or so.

You said there were no limits, and I'm saying, even in ideal circumstances, there are limits.

Ben, you are an idiot. What "the right time of the month" to do with the ability to carry chhildren from the age of 14 ? The ability to get pregnant has NOTHING to do with marriage wich is a social event. If you want a church event where fornication and fertility takes action, then it's Confirmation.

I don't know where you get your 10 from, but a girl can get pregnant from her 14 to 40 with variations, and if she survives, there are no limit.

Hmm? Quite wrong. Danes have higher fertility than we do. Look it up.

Don't know where you look, but the low fertility here has resulted in some curious commens from politicians here - still, who cares, it's irrelevant.

Ok, so lets get that straight. I'm arguing you should save sex for marriage, and you are complaining that I'm not imposing restrictions...

That is pure BS

Yes, it is. Two become one flesh. That is, if you want to have sex more than once...

More BS

[Berzerker]

We have an obligation to honour God's creation, He said that it was good, and we're responsible for letting it remain so, as gardeners so to speak.

There was no Adam to till the land... and that is why Adam was made - to be a slave. Thats what the Sumerians said, and Abraham was a Sumerian, and that explains the enigmatic verse in Genesis about our purpose on Earth, why we were created.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben, you are an idiot. What "the right time of the month" to do with the ability to carry children from the age of 14 ?

Everything with whether or not she gets pregnant. If she has sex at the wrong time, then she's not going to get pregnant.

The ability to get pregnant has NOTHING to do with marriage wich is a social event. If you want a church event where fornication and fertility takes action, then it's Confirmation.

You miss my point. I'm arguing that it's best for people to get married. I know you find it a rather strange argument, but if you want a large family you will only see them in marriage.

I don't know where you get your 10 from, but a girl can get pregnant from her 14 to 40 with variations, and if she survives, there are no limit.

Again, it's rare for there to be more than 10. There is a limit.

Don't know where you look, but the low fertility here has resulted in some curious commens from politicians here - still, who cares, it's irrelevant.

You brought up the comment, and now it's irrelevant? Really? You're a funny man. Quit bringing up irrelevant comments.

[Ben Kenobi]

I suspect you mean forced population control, populations tend to control themselves when children are no longer the primary source of care for the elderly.

I mean the entire concept of children as a burden. That applies to population control in general, which relies on that comment.

[Elok]

What's an ad-hominem?

A bit late, but I didn't notice anyone else answering it. An ad hominem is a fallacy (logical failure) wherein you insult a person rather than answer his/her argument. For example,

A: "We need better public transportation to reduce pollution and relieve traffic congestion."
B: "You would think that, you moron."

B has not answered A's argument, or even acknowledged it really. He's just called A a moron. Ad hominem (latin, "at the man").

[Theben]

Sex AND babies. What's so hard to figure out?

I have both. Ask yourself the question.

[Ben Kenobi]

And, that's a bad thing?!

Congrats tehban.

Hope you have more.

[Jon Miller]

I don't hate people, you ******! I believe there are already too many people on this planet as it is by at least a factor of two. I believe in quality of life for those people that are here, and we can't even afford to feed those that are here!

Hundreds of millions of people live on just a dollar a day - your policies would condemn those people to a continuing life of poverty and despair - you are the people-hater!

But we can afford to feed the people on this planet. We can provide them a good quality of life.

It is capitalism/greed that does this, not population. There isn't a way in the current economical system for everyone to be 'rich'.

JM

[Jon Miller]

I am a huge fan of kids, and want as many as I can.

However, I also acknowledge that as many as I can, with one woman, will probably be 3-5.

Jon