[serious] Off Topic Moderation Input - Part 2

[Asher]

Sick, sad little man...

Loinburger is schooling you.

[loinburger]

Not that it'll do any good - the Bible evidently says that you can disparage dead people if they were liberal, so I have no hope of winning this argument

[Ben Kenobi]

You didn't - you said he didn't deserve to be mourned.

I said no such thing. All I said is that he was not well-loved. At least not by people in my hometown. There are many who do love him, but there are a great many who feared him. This is a factual statement, to correct Asher's statement.

I'm not sure how you got out of that, "he deserved to die". Care to explain.

No, it's not - you're lying as usual. Post the link where he said anything remotely malicious about the 9/11 victims.

Saying that others misused their death is a slap in the face to both the victims and their families, many who called for action to be taken to bring justice for the terrorist attack. I personally disagree with the action taken, but that does not make the action malicious, or with ill-intent. It is an action to which righteous people can disagree.

You insulted a dead person. Doc did not post anything malicious about the 9/11 victims.

Then why did he politicize a thread, that was non-political until then? Answer me that. The thread was, for the most part respectful until then. Yes, I believe that people should respect memorial threads. Asher had a tradition until now of crapping on memorial threads, so I felt that it was time that he understood how others felt by having his actions done to him. That is why I did what I did. I simply applied his standards to him, as I am doing with you.

As far as I can see, your standards are 'crapping on memorial threads is ok if you spout leftist claptrap.' A-men. That is the voice of Loin speaking on the mount.

[Ben Kenobi]

So, to be clear, mourning that somebody's death was used for malicious purposes is Bad / Crapping On Them. Saying that a dead person was a terrible human being is A-OK.

Crapping on threads is a-ok if you're a leftists. Glad we got that straight. I was wondering if the usual gang of idiots would condemn their own crapping on memorial threads, but I am glad to see that I was not disappointed. Now their vanguard is swearing straight to his face, saying that it's ok.

So I have the Loin seal of approval for crapping on threads. Now I just have to get my blood for oil slogans down pat.

[Asher]

I disagree, Ben. I think child pornography is bad and pedophiles should be locked up. I don't understand how you can think otherwise.

[loinburger]

Saying that others misused their death is a slap in the face to both the victims and their families, many who called for action to be taken to bring justice for the terrorist attack. I personally disagree with the action taken, but that does not make the action malicious, or with ill-intent. It is an action to which righteous people can disagree.

So we are not allowed to disagree with the families of 9/11 victims without slapping them in the face? Are we also not allowed to disagree with the families of Iraqis killed in the ensuing war without slapping them in the face?

Then why did he politicize a thread, that was non-political until then? Answer me that. The thread was, for the most part respectful until then.

And Doc's post did not change the tone of the thread - it wasn't until you appointed yourself Thread Arbiter that the tone changed from one of mournful respect to one of nationalist disrespect. You claim that questioning the intent of the war is a slap in the face to the victims and their families, thereby claiming that all of the victims' families (and, posthumously, all of the victims) agreed with the war. You do not speak for the 9/11 victims or their families. (Neither does Doc, but he did not presume to do so.)

Yes, I believe that people should respect memorial threads. Asher had a tradition until now of crapping on memorial threads, so I felt that it was time that he understood how others felt by having his actions done to him. That is why I did what I did. I simply applied his standards to him, as I am doing with you.

"I believe that memorial threads should be respected unless I'm the one who's disrespecting them."

As far as I can see, your standards are 'crapping on memorial threads is ok if you spout leftist claptrap.' A-men. That is the voice of Loin speaking on the mount.

You are the one who brought politics into the thread - you are the one who said "only conservative mourning is allowed, liberal mourners should start their own thread."

[loinburger]

So I have the Loin seal of approval for crapping on threads.

You didn't need my approval to crap on threads in the past, I don't know why you would need it now.

[Ben Kenobi]

I think child pornography is bad and pedophiles should be locked up. I don't understand how you can think otherwise.

Odd that the one calling others pedophiles also calls to ban the same user for 'Jack Lenin'. Can you spell H-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-i-c-a-l

[Asher]

WTF? No, children cannot give consent! That's sick, Ben...sick.

[Ben Kenobi]

So we are not allowed to disagree with the families of 9/11 victims without slapping them in the face?

You can, 364 days a year, and just not in the thread used to honour and remember the victims.

Are we also not allowed to disagree with the families of Iraqis killed in the ensuing war without slapping them in the face?

Feel free to post that thread next time you get an urge to crap in the 9-11 thread. You guys had your chance. I ended up having to start that thread, which speaks volumes as to your true convictions. Like asher said, you don't really care about the Iraqis, but you do hate the 9-11 commemorations.

And Doc's post did not change the tone of the thread - it wasn't until you appointed yourself Thread Arbiter that the tone changed from one of mournful respect to one of nationalist disrespect.

Heh. Calling me a nationallist. Heh, I'll take that as a compliment when a leftist yankeestani calls me a filthy nationalist. I'm not even an American, so I don't see how I can be a nationalist when I've stated that I don't believe that my own nation is all that it's cracked up to be.

An american lover, sure. I love America. But not a nationalist.

You do not speak for the 9/11 victims or their families.

My actual statement was that many did and do, many did and did not, and the 9/11 thread is not the place for that discussion. Labelling such motivation as 'malicious is a slap in the face of the families trying to honor the dead. (watch that damn u.)

"I believe that memorial threads should be respected unless I'm the one who's disrespecting them."

"I believe that labelling the 9-11 families desire for justice as malicious is helpful and welcome in their memorial of the dead."

You are the one who brought politics into the thread - you are the one who said "only conservative mourning is allowed, liberal mourners should start their own thread."

"Only liberals shall be honoured with a memorial thread here on Apolyton, liberal bastion. All conservatives must be crapped upon and banned for speaking their minds."

That's like the second commandment of Apolyton.

[Asher]

Family makes it even worse, not excusable.

[Ben Kenobi]

You didn't need my approval to crap on threads in the past, I don't know why you would need it now.

Given that Asher tried to ban me for it, apparently I need the official Loin thread crapping endorsement. You're like the king of thread crappers. "If it ain't loin it ain't crap." Also Leiderhosen Jew needs to make a comeback.

[Asher]

Why would you think that? An affinity for Latino children certainly does explain your movie to Texas, though.

[loinburger]

You can, 364 days a year, and just not in the thread used to honour and remember the victims.

I'm still waiting on those Memorial Thread Rules. Not Okay: Disagreeing with the hypothetical opinions held by some of the victims and their families. Okay: Directly insulting a dead person, even going so far as to say that he was going to hell (sorry, "commie heaven").

Feel free to post that thread next time you get an urge to crap in the 9-11 thread. You guys had your chance. I ended up having to start that thread, which speaks volumes as to your true convictions. Like asher said, you don't really care about the Iraqis, but you do hate the 9-11 commemorations.

So I don't care about the deaths of people unless I start a thread about them? Does this mean that you only care about the deaths of the 9/11 victims on the anniversary of 9/11? That you only care about the death + resurrection of Jesus on Easter? That you don't give a crap about the deaths in Darfur or Iraq or in any other hotspot?

My actual statement was that many did and do, many did and did not, and the 9/11 thread is not the place for that discussion. Labelling such motivation as 'malicious is a slap in the face of the families trying to honor the dead. (watch that damn u.)

"I believe that labelling the 9-11 families desire for justice as malicious is helpful and welcome in their memorial of the dead."

Where did Doc say that their desire for justice was malicious? I'm looking for the quote but can't find it. I do see a quote that you probably twisted to your own malicious ends, but that's not quite the same thing as a quote that exists outside of your delusions.

"Only liberals shall be honoured with a memorial thread here on Apolyton, liberal bastion. All conservatives must be crapped upon and banned for speaking their minds."

That's like the second commandment of Apolyton.

All of the 9/11 victims were conservative?

[loinburger]

I double-checked, and at no point did Doc attack the victims or their families, nor did he attack their desire for justice. You are, once again, lying through your teeth.