[serious] Off Topic Moderation Input - Part 2

[MikeH]

I don't know who Ecofarm is.

[MikeH]

Found the user but seems to have no posts, or the search doesn't return them.

Was this while I was moderator?

[MikeH]

BTW I think there are some boundaries since I've been moderator, but I'm not around enough to enforce them.

[100% Wolf]

Found the user but seems to have no posts, or the search doesn't return them.

Was this while I was moderator?

Search function must be broken because he's clearly getting trolled in this thread:

http://apolyton.net/showthread.php/191235-Thread-in-which-we-give-Ecofarm-grounds-to-accuse-us-of-paedophilia

[MikeH]

2010? Right. Seems like I posted in that thread, but have no recollection of it.

[100% Wolf]

Are you sure you posted in it?

[Sava]

HAHAHAHA BEN KKENOBI **** TRIED FALSELY ACCUSING ME OF MAKING DEATH THREATS AGAIN

HAR AHRHRAHR RAHR H

you are such a pathetic little loser

That's twice in, what, two or three months?

should be a bannable offense

[Sava]

also, the little creep loves to harass women on facebook

[notyoueither]

also, the little creep loves to harass women on facebook

What's the story with that?

[Kidlicious]

What's the story with that?

Thought you were trying to lead us out of the ****.

[Aeson]

I've been busy the last couple days and wasn't able to see a lot of what was going on. I've gone through the threads and it looks like the participants in all the current conflicts are participating voluntarily. I want to reiterate a couple points though:

- MikeH is a saint and you should cherish him as a moderator. Neither Ming or I are nearly so patient. Bear that in mind going forward ...

- Death threats are not ok. (I haven't seen any posts which qualify recently.)

- If you have a real problem with what another poster is doing, please notify me or one of the other admins/moderators about it privately rather than attack publicly. If you're playing the same game they are, I'm going to assume it's consensual. That will make it very hard to make a case for moderation that doesn't include yourself being moderated as well. So just keep that in mind.

- We used to have a rule, "discuss the topic, not the poster". We could go back to this if people in the OT want. I want to keep the OT rules serving the posters here, since that's the only reason it's here.

- For now the rule is more "discuss the topic, another topic, or the poster's failings as a human, not their ethnicity/sexuality in a hatespeech sort of way". Some of the gender and nationality/ethnicity bashing that's been going on lately is pushing it. If it's kept as a joke that's one thing, but when it becomes outright bigotry that's another. As with the last point, consensual is ok ... but when you're using stereotypes (especially very negative ones with loaded words) you're making it much less likely your fight is consensual with all parties concerned. If we get complaints from people who are hit with or disgusted by collateral damage on those types of topics there will likely be moderation, especially if it's an on-going issue. All the bans that have happened in recent years have fallen under this rule.

- Fights spilling into other threads does become an issue if it happens too much. I don't know if there's a good way to deal with it, but I am open for suggestions. The ignore feature and ignore in quotes can help but aren't complete measures.

[Kidlicious]

I think it should be against the rules to refer to people as pedophiles, woman beaters etc,

[Kidlicious]

Oh and that it would be a positive thing if anyone stopped living but I might have already lost that one.

[Aeson]

I think it should be against the rules to refer to people as pedophiles, woman beaters etc,

Just be aware that if we ever did ban baseless insults, it would be applied fairly to all cases. Currently the rules allow that sort of senseless insult. I've been accused of human trafficking at times myself. (Apolyton's takeover is in no way part of setting up a front for human trafficking. And if kentonio should happen to never post again it definitely isn't because he's been sold to a Sultan in SE Asia.)

[Ben Kenobi]

also, the little creep loves to harass women on facebook

Perhaps I should pull out some of your posts regarding your 'ladyfriends?' who are neither ladies nor friends?

I'm not quite sure how you're even capable of assessing harassment given as you engage in it constantly.