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  • #91
    The issue isn't "conservatives" in some abstract sence. The issue is Republicans in a concrete sense. Mainstream Republicans don't like McCain, for the reasons Alex I cites above and the reasons Imran and I cited in the Bye Bye Fred Thompson thread.
    Yes, it's the difference between the devil you know, and the one you don't.

    Despite what I said to Che it looks like me and Huckabee are best buds until the next round goes through.

    A telling fact is that according to exit polls in all the contests so far, including NH, SC, and FL, McCain has yet to actually come in first among voters who identify themselves as Republican. Even in Florida -- a closed primary -- he only managed to tie Romney in this category.
    McCain has many flaws, but I still don't see any reason why a self-professed conservative would prefer Romney to McCain. They both have gaping flaws.

    Now we are in the worst part of the primaries. It was much more fun with everyone in the mix, but now it's gonna get nasty.
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    • #92
      Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
      Romney is an antagonistic dick. Thank you.
      Nominated, I'll second. All in favor?
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      • #93
        Aye!
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        • #94
          "If you're a Republican and McCain don't fit, it's your responsibility to vote for Mitt."
          "If the glove don't fit;
          You must vote Mitt!"
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          • #95
            [q="Ben Kenobi"]It was much more fun with everyone in the mix, but now it's gonna get nasty.[/q]

            But Huckabee's still in the mix, didn't you know? He's quite sure about it...
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            • #96
              But Huckabee's still in the mix, didn't you know? He's quite sure about it...
              Everyone! = Romney, Huckabee, McCain, Ron Paul.
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              • #97
                Originally posted by snoopy369
                [q="Ben Kenobi"]It was much more fun with everyone in the mix, but now it's gonna get nasty.[/q]

                But Huckabee's still in the mix, didn't you know? He's quite sure about it...
                All Huckabee is really helping to achieve is McCain winning the nomination, IMHO.

                Also IMHO, McCain winning the GOP means President Obama next year. I mean really, look at young and vital Obama and old grouch McCain.
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                • #98
                  McCain is generally considered to have a much better chance at beating the Democrats than Romney...
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by snoopy369
                    McCain is generally considered to have a much better chance at beating the Democrats than Romney...
                    I think McCain might have a better chance of beating Hillary. I don't know if any of the GOPers could beat out Obama though...
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                    • I think it'll be easier to beat Obama. Let the man be called out on his positions for things rather than just talking about hope and unity.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • He's the change candidate! Honestly. The man could even change a 50!
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                        • He probably actually is. He just hasn't gotten into specifics, really.
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • On what issue?
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                            • On most of 'em really. They may be on his website (perhaps, I dunno), but how many people actually know what he's for (including the people who voted for him)?
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                              • How many people know what Hillary's for? Hell, how many people know what McCain's for? Do you know what McCain's health care policy is (it's totally ridiculous, incidentally)?

                                Stump speeches rarely go into detailed policy, and Obama's no exception.
                                "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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