Duane 'Dog' Chapman arrested in Hawaii

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Elok ur not unsderstanding my question? If mexico doesnt recgonize contracts from the us in terms of people how is they recgonize contracts in terms of a car? If the bounty hunter can be arrested for kidnapping why cant the repo dude be arrested for auto theft?

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Oh and by the way a person losing his temper and gettign frustrated makes it ok for them to insult who ever they want because they are frustrated, is thats what your saying?

[SlowwHand]

They won't, Miz T., and thats the problem. Mexico has different rules in their interests only. Chop shops for USA thefts are abundant in Mexico.

[Ben Kenobi]

Elok:

Why is a contract that a person signs to another person less valid the a contract signed between another person?

Signing a contract saying you will pay money to buy the car is no less valid then the contract with the bondsman. A contract is a contract.

Btw, I think the mrs already knows why kh is upset and she's already told him off.

[notyoueither]

No, it's not, Ben.

You could sign a contract in some other countries and it might not be valid in Canada or the US. If the contract breaks Canadian or American laws, it would be invalid. Some ideas about marriage that differ between 'the old country' and here are affected by this.

The contract that is invalid in Mexico is probably not the bail bond. The contract that is invalid is the one giving Dog the right to apprehend the felon. That is illegal in Mexico and it has no bearing on Mexican law that forbids bounty hunting.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Elok
And KH is insulting you because he's very, very frustrated and hence losing his temper.

Have you ever read any of my posts in the past? I'm not at all frustrated. I'm insulting her because I enjoy insulting people.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
Elok ur not unsderstanding my question? If mexico doesnt recgonize contracts from the us in terms of people how is they recgonize contracts in terms of a car? If the bounty hunter can be arrested for kidnapping why cant the repo dude be arrested for auto theft?

If a repo man enters Mexico and repos a car due to nonpayment on a US debt without going through the proper channels then he can be arrested for auto theft. Duh. There are a number of precedents for this too.

[KrazyHorse]

Though I might also note that Mexican law, AFAIK, does not prohibit contracts allowing forced seizure of assets by private parties in the same manner that it prohibits contracts allowing forced seizure of persons by private parties. So given that and the less serious nature of auto theft than kidnapping, a repo man probably wouldn't be doing much in the way of jail time...

You can keep yacking away, dear, but the law doesn't say what you want it to.

Suckah.

[Elok]

Ngh. No, Mrs. Tubes, I am not justifying the behavior, merely explaining it. Or at least I thought I was. Apparently he is just being a weasel, by his own testimony, but I could see how someone could become frustrated here. You're arguing very strangely, and don't seem to be taking in what he's saying in addition to the insults. You'd probably take them in better if the insults weren't there to annoy you, but that's apparently just how KH rolls. Nothing I can do about that.

WRT the argument itself: I don't know contract law especially well (or at all), but it doesn't seem too important, since I'm pretty sure that Dog's right to his "merchandise" does not equal a right to hunt it down and take it by force, whatever it is. That right is granted to him by many, but not all, states up here in the USA (thanks for the link, DinoDoc!). The USA is powerless to grant rights outside its jurisdiction.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Elok the thing is im not arguing that what the mexcian goverment did was wrong at all. I said more times then once that i dont agree with it. I dont think the mexican goverment would be invlolved here if both parties were nobodies. Just like they pick and choose what things violate thier laws. I asked how is one different from the other? I have seen it happen were cars were repossed in mexico and the mexican police jsut shrug and say well i guess you should have made the payment. It doesnt make any sense that they allow one contract to be valid and void ones they decide to

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Kh your childish anitcs are a bit amusing but they do get a bit tiresome. U can insult to ur blue in the face i dont care im still not gonna agree with you. Ur not even arguing the same point i am. I am merely arguing that i dont agree that the criminals should have these type of rights and that if ur countries want to protect them from the big bad bounty hunters then keep em, better have them in ur neighborhood then in mine

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
Elok the thing is im not arguing that what the mexcian goverment did was wrong at all. I said more times then once that i dont agree with it. I dont think the mexican goverment would be invlolved here if both parties were nobodies. Just like they pick and choose what things violate thier laws. I asked how is one different from the other? I have seen it happen were cars were repossed in mexico and the mexican police jsut shrug and say well i guess you should have made the payment. It doesnt make any sense that they allow one contract to be valid and void ones they decide to

Jeez.

One contract is perfectly in tune with Mexican law (repossession of chattel when someone defaults) while the other is invalid because it is specifically banned by Mexican law (bounty hunting).

What about it does not make sense?

[SlowwHand]

I think the fault falls on Hawaii. They caved in. Wussed out. I wish the U.S. government would step in.

[pchang]

Sorry

But just because someone is a scumbag does not mean it is OK to break the law to catch him. Mr. Chapman and associates have to take their chances with the due process of the Mexican legal system. However, I have a feeling that they will be released on probation after paying a hefty fine (cough bribe cough).

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
You can't draw that comparison. Texas would hang him before Donegal even got here, unless Donegal was a quick mover.

Given that Texas has the most criminals running around of any other state, I find that rather difficult to believe. Your state has a serious crime problem. Whatever you people are doing, you ain't doing it right.