Duane 'Dog' Chapman arrested in Hawaii

[Elok]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
So let me get this straight, you'd rather see a convicted rapist from the US post bond, flee to Canada and have our government shelter him rather then turning him over to the authorities?

I get the feeling this isn't about what anyone would "rather see." If it comes to that, I would rather there were no rape in the first place. However, as a matter of legal procedure, I see no reason why any country should allow foreign nationals to use violent restraint on ANYONE in said country. At least not when said foreign nationals have no registration, regulation, or recognized place in the country's legal system.

As a legal issue, this has very little to do with what the guy did to merit being chased down. Law enforcement has no authority outside its own borders. And bounty hunters aren't even recognized law enforcement officers. They're a peculiar American phenomenon, and even here there are sharp restrictions on what they're allowed to do. IIRC, they can only track down the fugitives; the police have to make the actual arrest. That was certainly the case on the one episode of that show I saw. Dog would have been exceeding his authority even in his own country...

[SlowwHand]

I don't know why I lead a crime-free life. I'm a fool.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Elok
IIRC, they can only track down the fugitives; the police have to make the actual arrest. That was certainly the case on the one episode of that show I saw. Dog would have been exceeding his authority even in his own country...

Depends on the state: Only a handful of states -- Kentucky, Illinois and Oregon -- prohibit bounty hunters entirely from making bail arrests. In these states, bounty hunters need to have a court order. Then, the judge will usually order the local police to arrest the fugitive, and the bounty hunter can request that the prisoner be remanded into his or her custody.

http://people.howstuffworks.com/bounty-hunting.htm

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
yes he does!! He sigend his name to a legal document saying eh will appear in court to get him out of jail!!!!!!
What the hell is so hard to understand that? do u thinkthat everyone has the amount of money to reserve their freedom cause they say hey im a good person??? and desreve to not be in jail? he sigend a contract and that contract being violated costs the bonds man money if he failed to appear. whats so hard to understand

He violated the terms of his contract in the US. Whatever penalties or forfeits he owes of course stand. However, the section of the contract which allows the bail bondsman to apprehend him does not apply in a foreign country. In signing the bail bond contract he gives up his right to freedom from imprisonment by agents of the bail bondsman while inside the US. He dos not (and cannot, in the Canada, Mexico, or most other industrialised countries) give permission ahead of time to be kidnapped.

The capture took place under Mexican jurisdiction. He cannot give up his rights in this regard while in Mexico. They don't recognise any contract which allows that. The clause is invalid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounty_hunter

Daniel Kear pursued and apprehended Sidney Jaffe at a residence in Canada. Kear was extradited to Canada, and convicted of kidnapping.

This case should be well known to bounty hunters. It is legal precedent demonstrating that they have no legal cover to operate internationally. If they attempt to they will be tried and convicted.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


So let me get this straight, you'd rather see a convicted rapist from the US post bond, flee to Canada and have our government shelter him rather then turning him over to the authorities?

No, I'd rather see him extradited to the US after due process of law has been followed.

You're really going to have to try harder than that, little one.

[joncha]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I'm a fool.

[SlowwHand]

You're a pompous little f*cker, aren't you?

[joncha]

[SlowwHand]

joncha you remind me of one of those little bobble heads.

[joncha]

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
And i am gonna say this one more time. if the folks in canada and mexico want to support these criminals then so be it!! All I have to say is at least they are now off our streets and on yours!

Just a question, but would you like to see someone extradited from the US to face trial in Saudi Arabia for failing to wear a veil?

[SlowwHand]

That is a stupid comparison.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
i wonder how many criminals can one mention that the us didnt hand over to the country that demanded his return?

I can mention two terrorist murderers off the top of my head. Their names escape me buyt one was a member of the IRA and the other one blew up a Cuban airliner and was setnenced in Venezuela. The U.S. currently refuses to extradite him back to face prison and is about to let him go (and likely disappear) cuz they can't find another country to take him.

[SlowwHand]

Then you can't mention them can you?

[chequita guevara]

Suck my feces, Dallas.