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  • Originally posted by GePap
    In time, a month ahead of schedule, as opposed to being able to fill it out that day.
    There are a whole slew of reasons as to why we have deadlines for registration, almost all of them deisgned to prevent fraud.

    By the way, did that woman not have the right to a provisional ballot, intituted in 2002, that would allow her to vote, but that would hold that vote up to scrutiny to see if it was actually valid? or an affidavit ballot?
    I have no idea, I was in the doorway when she walked past.

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    • Originally posted by GePap
      You forgot:

      In time, a month ahead of schedule, as opposed to being able to fill it out that day.

      By the way, did that woman not have the right to a provisional ballot, intituted in 2002, that would allow her to vote, but that would hold that vote up to scrutiny to see if it was actually valid? or an affidavit ballot?
      One of the OSU legal people on Election Law asked their polling person about how many provisional ballots had been needed so far.

      The response was "what are you talking about?"

      -Drachasor
      "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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      • Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
        There are a whole slew of reasons as to why we have deadlines for registration, almost all of them deisgned to prevent fraud.
        Which really should take no more than a week to figure out if they are alive and live where they live- again, we give people guns in less time than a month.

        No, we just like making voting difficult.
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        • By the way, did that woman not have the right to a provisional ballot, intituted in 2002, that would allow her to vote, but that would hold that vote up to scrutiny to see if it was actually valid? or an affidavit ballot?


          Probably, but the woman most likely stormed out and didn't accept getting a provisional ballot. That seems like what most of the callers who call up at my job would do.
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          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • I hope that after this election we implement a national voter registration system.

            When you vote (showing your card or other I.D.) your name will be marked on a national database as having voted. Dead names and the like will be easier to clear off and residence issues will be less worrisome and easier to fix. One national database can do that.

            We should really spend a few billion dollars or more to update all of our voting systems to a unified, electronic system that leaves a paper trail and additionally gives voters a receipt. A nice computerized system would be very easy to use (though tests should be done before such a thing is widely implemented to ensure ease of use).

            -Drachasor
            "If there's a child on the south side of Chicago who can't read, that matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties. It's that fundamental belief -- I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper -- that makes this country work." - Barack Obama

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            • I dunno, it might be a decade before electronic machines are really accepted. Though an actual electronic database tying in residency would be good. But of course there's big brother again...

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              • OH my God, Big Brother making it easier for people to depose those making up Big Brother- How Tyranical!
                If you don't like reality, change it! me
                "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                • Hey, I support the idea. It's just there's going to be that obstacle.

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                  • I most other countries, when you become 18 you get n ID card given by the elections commission as your one ID.
                    If you don't like reality, change it! me
                    "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                    "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                    "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                    • This country has always rejected a national ID card and that's something which have been argued against by civil liberties groups (like the ACLU) for a long time.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • And that is a stupid position.
                        If you don't like reality, change it! me
                        "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                        "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                        "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                        • You can't magically waive it away by saying it is a 'stupid position'.

                          Harry Tuttle is 100% right. If you want to live in a fantasy world, be my guest .
                          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                          • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                            This country has always rejected a national ID card and that's something which have been argued against by civil liberties groups (like the ACLU) for a long time.
                            What are the arguments against a national ID card?
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                            • Americans hate being catagorized and having the government know where they are, etc, etc. It's an anti-government belief.
                              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                              • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                                Americans hate being catagorized and having the government know where they are, etc, etc. It's an anti-government belief.
                                Err, I son't unserstand where the problem is, provided all that info can only be found on the ID (and not in government archives). The government should only be here to provide an authoritative document that cannot be forged.
                                "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                                "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                                "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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