Socialist claim victory in Spain

[PLATO]

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous


The government tried to hide who was responsible for the bombings. The people, seeing that the government did this, removes that government from power. The people institute a government in place of the one that lied.

How the **** is that not free?

If this indeed the case, the I have no problem with it. You simply misunderstand the point I am trying to make. Terrorism, by its very definition, inspires reactionary choices. If it was this phenomenon that changed the vote, then there is a problem. If it is as simple as you imply, then I don't see a problem. Logic tells me that it is not so simple a solution however.

[jasev]

I didn't know that Spain was a so vital ally of the US. It makes me proud that a 40-million people country can be so valuable.

Well, I know we are smarter, cuter and stronger than the other europeans but....

(j/k please don't shoot me )

[The Emperor Fabulous]

And in some people's minds, Communists still = Russia

[Odd]

Of course the election of the socialists was a defeat for democracy. The US government is democratic, therefore anything against it is against democracy and should be erradicated by force.

I believe we should start a seach in the socialist party for weapons of mass destruction.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by jasev
I didn't know that Spain was a so vital ally of the US. It makes me proud that a 40-million people country can be so valuable.

They are and hopefully will remain so. This alliance is far bigger than the Iraq issue.

[jasev]

If this indeed the case, the I have no problem with it. You simply misunderstand the point I am trying to make. Terrorism, by its very definition, inspires reactionary choices. If it was this phenomenon that changed the vote, then there is a problem. If it is as simple as you imply, then I don't see a problem. Logic tells me that it is not so simple a solution however.

¿Could we argue that the victory of the republicans in the congress elections (2002?) was a result of 9/11?

[molly bloom]

Judging by the thinking in some of these posts, the election of Labour in Great Britain after the Second World War, was clearly a pyrrhic victory for Nazism.

Oh, and the election of Thatcher after the Falklands' War clearly a triumph for South American military dictatorships- or the I.R.A. .

I suppose Eisenhower's election was a victory for Stalin too. Or Mao. Or both.

It couldn't possibly be that as in most general elections, domestic issues occupy the minds of voters the most.

You know, job security, the economy, welfare, education, the health system.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by jasev


¿Could we argue that the victory of the republicans in the congress elections (2002?) was a result of 9/11?

I don't think so. That was 14 months after the attack. It is possible that the influence of the attack may have caused a more conservative lean in the elections, but it is not the immediate reactionary type feeling that was in place immediately post 9/11.

[germanos]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Socialist claim victory in Spain

Originally posted by PLATO


This is ridiculous. I never dismissed them in any way shape or form. They are fully valid and the will of the Spanish people. I support that. What I call into question is the possible reactionary nature of the vote that could have been caused by a terror attack. If this is the case, then I stand by my statement of an al-Qaida victory.

oh, good. You had me worried for a minute

[PLATO]

Originally posted by molly bloom
Judging by the thinking in some of these posts, the election of Labour in Great Britain after the Second World War, was clearly a pyrrhic victory for Nazism.

Oh, and the election of Thatcher after the Falklands' War clearly a triumph for South American military dictatorships- or the I.R.A. .

I suppose Eisenhower's election was a victory for Stalin too. Or Mao. Or both.

Please explain a bit further how you think that this line of postulation would lead to the conclusions you draw. I am really curious as to the corelations that you are drawing to gain these conclusions. (Unless of course that was just a troll )

[Agathon]

A clear message to Bush, who must be quaking in his boots. Here's hoping the Spanish Government withdraws from Iraq.

[joncha]

That's just crazy-talk, Molly Bloom. Don't you know it's all just a Zionist Islamic conspiracy?

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Agathon
A clear message to Bush, who must be quaking in his boots. Here's hoping the Spanish Government withdraws from Iraq.

Say we all left. Then what, genius?

[joncha]

Originally posted by PLATO


Say we all left. Then what, genius?

Say y'all never messed around there in the first place. Would we even be dealing with this mess now?

[jasev]

Say we all left. Then what, genius?

You're right. We have commited a huge mistake in Iraq, now we can't leave until we repair it. But I think that the UN should take charge.