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Originally posted by PLATO
This is the point I was hoping to see debated here. Was the election the result of the terror attacks or would these results have been obtained in any event. If they are the result of the terror attacks then surely this is a dangerous precedent.
The relation of the results to the terror attacks seems to be in reference to the conservative government's handling of the incident, not a result of the incident itself.
But what if it had gone the other way--what if the electorate had gone from supporting PSOE to PP after the attacks? Would you find it as dangerous a precedent?
They do right now and that's what matters. Now is a chance to prove that it works and get everyone on side. More importantly it would be a way for countries like Canada to be able to support the US with the full support of their population.
Now isn't the time for experimentation, especially in the face of repeated failures.
You are placing a HUGE bet on the entire future of the middle east and the Iraqis based on a remote "maybe."
The UN has a track record of failure.
The UN Peacekeepers that were murdered in Africa last year, after calling repeatedly for help or extraction, comes to mind. I don't have the details offhand but I remember how sick it made me.
Blue Hats = doormats
A UN command structure would be the worst possible outcome. Actual doormats make better peacekeepers.
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
Originally posted by PLATO
Was the election the result of the terror attacks or would these results have been obtained in any event. If they are the result of the terror attacks then surely this is a dangerous precedent.
From what I've read, it was a result of the attacks, but an indirect one. The main cause of the defeat of the Conservatives was their handling of the situation after the attacks. Obviously if the attacks had not happened, they could not have lied about it.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
My guess is that we can expect similar attacks before the next elections in Britain and the US.
If the reconstruction of Iraq were to be handed over to the UN I can assure you that al-Qaida would declare open season upon every member participating.
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
If what happened the last time the UN was in Iraq is any indication, they wouldn't have to go that far.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
My guess is that we can expect similar attacks before the next elections in Britain and the US.
Impossible. We invaded Iraq and got rid of that madman Saddam Hussein. We are much safer now that we have him in custody. We just need to keep invading countries so we can get safer and safer. Infact I have heard many blaming Iran, perhaps Iran needs to be taught a lesson.
Every time there is a regime change, an angel gets it's wings.
Originally posted by DinoDoc
If what happened the last time the UN was in Iraq is any indication, they wouldn't have to go that far.
Why. It turns out they did a very thorough job.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
They got bombed once and left. How's that a very thorough job?
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln
UN has less spine than your typical earth worms. They watched Gorazde and Srebrenica getting massacred, they left their own soldiers gutted and eaten, and they ran from Iraq after the first bomb.
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