Socialist claim victory in Spain

[DanS]

Congratulations to the Socialists. Even though I don't at all support them, they seem to have won it fair and square.

If I were a Spaniard and voting, I also would have thought twice about the way that the Spanish government handled the news. Don't think it would have changed my vote, but when the vote is so close anyway, a little swing can change the outcome.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Explain me... how did the government handle the news?

[DanS]

By senior officials immediately blaming ETA, without evidence. It's not necessarily a lie, but it shows lack of control.

If al Qaeda had been blamed immediately by senior members of the Bush administration for the anthrax attacks in DC without evidence, I think I would have shown similar unease, for instance. Just trying to put myself in Spaniards' shoes.

[chequita guevara]

Spanish Socialists suck. They aren't worthy of the name.

[monkspider]

A certain concerned party wanted me to share this message with you guys.

I just found out something.. point this out on the forum.. Socialist President Zapatero's economic minister is going to be a conservative capitalist.. a former banker of BBVA. You commies still lose.

[chequita guevara]

As I said . . .

[Az]

"Muhahahaha! You commies still lose"

anyway, While I think it's natural that the people would change their stance after the "It's ETA!" stance, I sure hope that the people didn't change their stance due to a "Iraq war" link. Since that would mean they bought the Al-Qaeda lie.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
If the reconstruction of Iraq were to be handed over to the UN I can assure you that al-Qaida would declare open season upon every member participating.

Yes, but the moderate Muslim world would be against them, and they would get much less new followers. Solve the Israeli conflict once and for all, and Al-Qaeda is in big trouble.

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
As I said . . .

The center-left is rarely any better than the center right, indeed.

[Colon™]

Originally posted by DanS
By senior officials immediately blaming ETA, without evidence. It's not necessarily a lie, but it shows lack of control.

If al Qaeda had been blamed immediately by senior members of the Bush administration for the anthrax attacks in DC without evidence, I think I would have shown similar unease, for instance. Just trying to put myself in Spaniards' shoes.

Well I assume the press in the US hasn't been reporting too much about their manipulations but Aznar and his party are a bunch of lying SOB's. We're not talking about impulsive finger-pointing, we're talking about willful and systematic manipulation of the media and deception of the public.

After the minister of interior affairs already knew that a van had been discovered which was used by the terrorist and contained a tape with koran verses, the govt called foreign correspondents to "remind" them ETA was responsible. At the same time, the minister of foreign affairs sent a memo to all Spanish ambassadors and Aznar contacted the chief editors of all the important Spanish newspapers, with the same message. For chrissake, the bastards even misled the UN Security Council to file a resolution maintaining ETA was responsible.
When it became obvious they just couldn't insist on that fairy tale anymore, they tried to spread the bullcrap it was a collabaration between the ETA and muslim fundamentalists, pointing to "contacts" between both. Everything had to be done to make sure ETA remained the main suspect because the opposite implied Aznar was in serious **** for his support to Bush.

You have to understand Aznar and his cabinet had been showing plenty of autocratic tendencies before, to the point it became worrying for such a young democracy as Spain.
Either how those scoundrels were a disgrace to the principles of democracy and they deserved to go. We have no desire for another Putinocracy, thank you very much.

[Ted Striker]

The nice thing about Al Queda is that they always keep with them some kind of extremist Islamic crap, so it makes them easier to track.

Colon,

What about Chiracrocy? (Also known as hypocrisy)

[Colon™]

Hey look teddybear, if your "war on terrorism" means putting up with types like Aznar, Berlusconi, Putin and Musharraf, your war can go to hell.

[Drake Tungsten]

Hey look teddybear, if your "war on terrorism" means putting up with types like Aznar, Berlusconi, Putin and Musharraf, your war can go to hell.

I can't imagine what's going to go through your head once Al Qaeda finally gets around to dealing with your insignificant country. Hopefully, America and its true allies will take care of Al Qaeda and prevent something like that from ever happening, though...

[Colon™]

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[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Colon
Hey look teddybear, if your "war on terrorism" means putting up with types like Aznar, Berlusconi, Putin and Musharraf, your war can go to hell.

Putin and Musharaff aren't the greatest but they are the best alternatives available. They are keeping their countries stable and out of chaos.

I fear the day when Musharaff is out of power. It honestly scares me because world war 3 might be around the corner if his nukes ever get loose.

Meanwhile Chirac is waging a war for chocolate.

Brilliant.

I see Eurocoms conveniently let that one slip by. All the while sucking his d1ck the whole way. Hypocrisy at its finest.