If Bush is considered 'What is Republican'...

[bipolarbear]

I'm personally gunnin for KU-KU-KUCINICH next time! It's so fun to spell and pronounce. I think I'll ens up changing my name to that.

[Agathon]

@ this thread.

Bush is toast. Even his former supporters are beginning to face the fact that he's an incompetent loony in charge of a bigoted, anti-realist administration. Anyone should have known this as soon as he hired David Frum as his speechwriter. That man is the most retarded person I have ever heard.

And for the record - I love how some people say they are socially liberal but economically conservative. Sorry, in the real world you can't be both at the same time - real democracy and real social liberalism requires a more equal distribution of power in society.

[Ben Kenobi]

No Jewish, Hindu, or Muslim organizations have received any money under this policy (not that many have applied).

If they don't apply, how can you blame the government?

Sava:

You are a social democrat, and your opinion on the Republican party is therefore irrelevant.

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by Agathon
Bush is toast.

No, he is not. I'm sorry but John Kerry is too much of an a-hole to defeat Bush.

Even his former supporters are beginning to face the fact that he's an incompetent loony in charge of a bigoted, anti-realist administration.

I may not agree with Bush's view on gay marriage, but you're full of crap.

And for the record - I love how some people say they are socially liberal but economically conservative. Sorry, in the real world you can't be both at the same time - real democracy and real social liberalism requires a more equal distribution of power in society.

Okay you again proved how full of crap you are. You are just full of it. You are a damn marxist, so what are you talking about democracy? You don't want democracy, you want dictatorship.

[oedo]

my word

fiscal conservative, social liberal, or other way round…man who cares about that? Bush is none of it, he’s a criminal. simple as that. so is his administration. a bunch of kleptomanic, homophobic criminals. America will be better off without them. the GOP will be better off without them. even Alcatraz would be better off without them, although that would be the place where criminals like the Bushies should be sent to for the rest of their useless criminal lifes.

my word…

[Giancarlo]

Re: my word

Originally posted by oedo
fiscal conservative, social liberal, or other way round…man who cares about that? Bush is none of it, he’s a criminal. simple as that. so is his administration. a bunch of kleptomanic, homophobic criminals. America will be better off without them. the GOP will be better off without them. even Alcatraz would be better off without them, although that would be the place where criminals like the Bushies should be sent to for the rest of their useless criminal lifes.

my word…

Red herring! I disagree with Bush's stance on gay marriage don't get me wrong.. but this is all I have been seeing.. red herrings with no evidence supporting it.. only pure emotion and insanity.

[oedo]

Originally posted by Giancarlo


Red herring! I disagree with Bush's stance on gay marriage don't get me wrong.. but this is all I have been seeing.. red herrings with no evidence supporting it.. only pure emotion and insanity.

pure emotion. absolutely. sometimes I just need it.

Originally posted by Giancarlo
No, he is not. I'm sorry but John Kerry is too much of an a-hole to defeat Bush.

I may not agree with Bush's view on gay marriage, but you're full of crap.

Okay you again proved how full of crap you are. You are just full of it. You are a damn marxist, so what are you talking about democracy? You don't want democracy, you want dictatorship.

but what about this?

[Drake Tungsten]

It's not easy to be a Republican in the Berkley of the East

You guys didn't really call Rutgers the "Berkeley of the East", did you?

[Giancarlo]

Originally posted by oedo

pure emotion. absolutely. sometimes I just need it.

but what about this?

Did I ever deny I put emotion in my posts? Of course I do. I am just saying you are full of red herrings. Well it is way past my bed time.. (4AM)..

[niDe]

as long as bush isn't an edenist

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Agathon

And for the record - I love how some people say they are socially liberal but economically conservative. Sorry, in the real world you can't be both at the same time - real democracy and real social liberalism requires a more equal distribution of power in society.

Have you always been an eternal pessimist? Do you truly believe there is no room for moderates and that the parties need be polarized to the extent they have become?

I contend the majority of Americans are in the middle and given the opportunity would resound behind such a candidate were the parties not hijacked by the extreme bases on both sides. In other words, it would have been a run away if McCain had the repub nomination and the issue of Bush stealing the election would have been moot.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
If they don't apply, how can you blame the government?

I wrote not many, not none. The fact of the matter is these grants are going to extremist fundi churches that are allied to the Republican Party. It's patronage and state support of religion all rolled up in one corrupt mess.

You are a social democrat, and your opinion on the Republican party is therefore irrelevant.

Ben, you are a Canuk, and your views on the Republican Party are irrlevenet.

[Ned]

In a small concession to Imran, the most admired emperor in Roman history other than Augustus was Trajan. One of the reasons he was admired was that he put the Empire's finances in good order and balanced the budget.

To some extent, Eisenhower was also admired because he insisted on balancing the budget. However, Nixon got no credit for this when Kennedy campaigned on the slogan "getting America going again," because Eisenhower's efforts to balance the budget casued a recession. What Kennedy did was cut tax rates. That set off a sustained period of growth until the wheels came off in the seventies. While tax revenues fell in the initial year after the tax rate cut, tax revenues were quickly back to the former levels due to increased economic performance.

So I can say to Imran is that he appears to be in favor of balancing the budget and causing a renewal of the recession just like Eisenhower.

[el freako]

Ned,

The US government is spending way beyond it's means - even if the economy was running at it's boom level of 2000 there would still be governmental financial deficit of nearly 4% of GDP (compared to a surplus of 1% then).

Face it, all that borrowing has done is to postpone the reckoning - and it will be that much worse 'cos of the increasing interest costs that today's borrowing binge is running up.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by AnnC
Imran, you're not alone. See Bob Novak's most recent column: Republican malaise.

Hey thanks . Good article. I always liked Novak for trying to 'tell it as it is', even when it gets him trouble with his own party.