The Passion rotten so far

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
So you think Mel will make his money back plus rake in alot of profit as well. Sounds like a win for him.

Sure, although I never said the film wouldn't be profitable.

Profitable != quality cinema.

It also doesn't change the premise of the thread... That TPOTC is still rotten based on diverse group of film critics, a hundred reviews later, after it got enough to be rated It actually dropped 5% in fact.

[Sava]

Re: Re: The Passion rotten so far

Originally posted by Ned
Well, based on the reviews, the movie should be a bust. Now, let's check the box office numbers. Hmmm.....

well sure... make a movie about Jesus and all the jesus freak morons will flock to it like flies to ****.

[Guynemer]

Re: Re: Re: The Passion rotten so far

Originally posted by Sava
well sure... make a movie about Jesus and all the jesus freak morons will flock to it like flies to ****.

That isn't helping, Sava.

[MrFun]

After watching some more reporting on this blown-out-of-proportion issue, I just wanted to state that those who have in the past, showered praise for such movies as Pulp Fiction, Thin Red Line, and so forth, seem to be inconsistent by villifying the violence portrayed in Gibson's current movie.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by MrBaggins
Profitable != quality cinema.

Profitable = popular cinema.

[Capt Dizle]

Re: Re: Re: The Passion rotten so far

Originally posted by Sava
well sure... make a movie about Jesus and all the jesus freak morons will flock to it like flies to ****.

Nothing like the narrow minded attacking those whose mind he percieves as ... too narrow.

[Sava]

Re: Re: Re: Re: The Passion rotten so far

Originally posted by Guynemer


That isn't helping, Sava.

I figured I'd feed the Nedtroll

btw jimmytrick, am I wrong?!

I think you people are just mad because, despite my obnoxious way of expressing it, I'm right.

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Profitable = popular cinema.

Popular in the first week usually equates to hyped cinema.

Scooby Doo and The Hulk had big first weeks.

[Sava]

to be fair though, I don't hate all religion or all religious people... my family is quite religious... especially the older generations. I hate religious thought processes that discourage critical thought and require blind, unwavering faith.

for example, I think Buddhism is a great religion... peace, meditation, enlightenment... all that crap is good.

[Berzerker]

Jon -

any suggestion of this in the Bible at all?

Yes, there is an episode where some of the disciples are griping about the "special" relationship between Mary and Jesus and someone chastises them. Then there is the problem with Jesus being a priest who doesn't marry...marriage was a requirement for priests to pass along the line. One more point, Jesus attended a wedding at Cana and changed water into wine when it is brought to his attention that the wine is running out. After tasting Jesus' wine a guest comments how the groom usually serves the good stuff first and when everyone is drunk, then produces a second batch of wine that is inferior, but that the order was reversed. Why was Jesus supplying wine in the first place? That's the groom's duty! The only logical conclusion is that Jesus was the groom...

Why would the early gospel authors hide or ignore a possible marriage between Mary and Jesus? Maybe they didn't, maybe their text was edited by Paul and his group. Maybe Paul considered it inappropriate for Jesus to be married, especially if Paul was going to turn Jesus into a divine being. Maybe the authors themselves didn't want Mary to have more attention or relevance... Or maybe Jesus never married, but that leaves us with these problems...

[Berzerker]

As for atheists "hating" religious folk. C'mon, look at what religious folk have done and are still doing to others in the name of their religion. If atheists had tortured and slaughtered millions of people over the past 30-40 centuries we'd see religious folk hating atheists. Hell, atheists finally gained some power in the 20th century and started slaughtering people too...

I could care less what Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson et al believe, but when they start using government to hypocritically force me to live my life in accordance with their beliefs then I object and I'm not even an atheist. Then these a-holes whine about religious bigotry when they are using violence against others? Think about it, these clowns want other people put in jail for exercising their freedom, including other religious folk who use "drugs" as part of their religions and then these same people complain how Christianity is illegal or oppressed in other countries? The stench of their hypocrisy would repel a starving vulture... and yet, the behavior condemned most often by Jesus was...ahem...hypocrisy...

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by MrFun
After watching some more reporting on this blown-out-of-proportion issue, I just wanted to state that those who have in the past, showered praise for such movies as Pulp Fiction, Thin Red Line, and so forth, seem to be inconsistent by villifying the violence portrayed in Gibson's current movie.

Yeah, and who's that?

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by MrFun
After watching some more reporting on this blown-out-of-proportion issue, I just wanted to state that those who have in the past, showered praise for such movies as Pulp Fiction, Thin Red Line, and so forth, seem to be inconsistent by villifying the violence portrayed in Gibson's current movie.

Pulp Fiction and The Thin Red Line are less graphically gory than TPOTC.

Direct depictions of personal violence have far less screen time in those movies than in TPOTC, and further more, there is a significant story beyond the violence, in both cases.

TPOTC is more akin to a slasher or snuff film, if you want to compare it to something.

[Imran Siddiqui]

After watching some more reporting on this blown-out-of-proportion issue, I just wanted to state that those who have in the past, showered praise for such movies as Pulp Fiction, Thin Red Line, and so forth, seem to be inconsistent by villifying the violence portrayed in Gibson's current movie.

Villifying? All I've heard by reviewers it that the violence in this movie is too much, you know, getting to Texas Chainsaw Massacre levels (which wasn't showered with praise for its violence, btw).

[Ben Kenobi]

I read in a newsweek article about women in the Bible that the story about Mary Magdelene being a prostitute is false, that story was invented By Peter, who hated Mary Magdelene's close relationship with Jesus

Why would you believe what Newsweek says? Rather late into the story, eh?

I saw the movie, it blew me away.

I would disagree with Imran about the violence in the movie getting to Texas chainsaw massacre levels. Gibson accomplishes more through suspense, then through the actual violence. He cuts away from the scourging at numerous points, so you get the feeling that while the scourging is important, it is not the only thing going on.

Secondly, all this anti-semitism is just bull. Gibson has some of the Sanhedrin council members withdraw from the proceedings against Christ, and others complain as to how not all the Council members are there. Even the Jewish council members are not all tarred with the same brush.

And a Jew helps Christ carry his cross while the Roman guards beat him down. Some of the Romans are downright kind, while others are brutal, just as in real life.