How far did the Gibson apple fall from the tree?

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by GePap


It's definitional.

In other words, BS

[Bereta_Eder]

I've seen some pictures of the film which showed a christ bathed in blood on the cross. If that's the movie, cheap sensationalism I'd rather let others go and masturbate over it.

[Alexander's Horse]

The best Jesus film I have seen was based on a novel by a Greek Karantzakis - The Last Temptation.

Brilliant. A real Jesus at last.

[Bereta_Eder]

Burly christ he was too. Looked more like a WWF show than the passions of christ. Besides, Jefireli has done it outstandingly well already.

[Seeker]

Does anyone else see the irony in this:

If you DON'T tell me about Jesus, I will be judged on my merits and how I lived....

If you DO tell me, you essentially condemn me to hell for not being able to believe such a far-fetched story...

Like the Eskimo once said to the missionary...'better not to have said anything'...

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
The best Jesus film I have seen was based on a novel by a Greek Karantzakis - The Last Temptation.

Brilliant. A real Jesus at last.

Haven't seen it but I remember the reactions in Europe. Religionists, to use a fashionable term, going to movie theaters and banging people on the head with crosses, staging restriction zones outside the movie theaters etc. For this book Kazantzakis became one of the top names in the Vatican's "enemy list" and was excommunicated from the Orthodox church as well.

[Ben Kenobi]

Yes, we Christians positively revel upon the chance of being persecuted.

Seeker:

It is like believing in something all your life, and then having someone come to you and confirm what you have believed. You don't need to keep quiet about it anymore!

Secondly, if you would prefer to live under the law, then I think you need to go read Romans and hear the exceedingly difficult demands of the law. For grace is both easier and harder, in demanding love, and not works.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by paiktis22



Haven't seen it but I remember the reactions in Europe. Religionists, to use a fashionable term, going to movie theaters and banging people on the head with crosses, staging restriction zones outside the movie theaters etc. For this book Kazantzakis became one of the top names in the Vatican's "enemy list" and was excommunicated from the Orthodox church as well.

What more evidence do you need it's a brilliant film?

[GePap]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
True, but the fact that they all agree on the basic facts of the life, death and resurrection of Christ, ought to reinforce our confidence in all three events. For if each Gospel parroted the other, one could be much more suspicious.

Why? after all, if they are all from eye witnesses of the same events... And besides, if there was just one gospel (a 'true gospel"), believers whould not ask anyway.

They all agree on the virgin birth, cucifiction, and ressurection, which are basically the things that matter to Christians- they do mix a lot of details up thought.

In other words, BS

Nope- trully evil en don;t bother with either writing laws, or following what is on the books, they just act. So not even if they were the leaders of the state could their acts be correctly labelled as lawful- hich is what yu brought up- killing by the legal authorities might be murder, but a legal execution by the legal authorities can't be.

[Alexander's Horse]

dream on. You can't explain what you claimed, lol.

[GePap]

I just did Horsie.

[Alexander's Horse]

did not, what a lame answer, lol.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Jeruslem was a small city, but the Jews made the majority of citizens are were surrounded by a countryside of jews- so don;t be dense Imran- huge difference between jews in a jewish city in a jewish land rebelling and jews in Roman city in a Roman coutnryside rebelling.

How much of Roman history do you know? Calling me dense! Jewish communities were usually seperated from the major towns. They had their own 'cities' basically. Babylon, for one, was the second largest Jewish city in the Roman Empire, and it was as Jewish a city as Jerusalem.

It was something future Christian sects would try to emulate. Seperate Christian cities, apart from the reach of the Empire. Of course you had the rabble rousers who'd rather live near the big cities, but a lot of them stayed apart, following the Jewish model of seperate communities, apart from the reast of the Roman world.

One of the strengths of the Gospels is that you have differing perspectives, different styles of writing, different purposes and target audiences for each Gospel.

Indeed, makes it more believable.

[Ben Kenobi]

after all, if they are all from eye witnesses of the same events...

So, that's what happens all the time in history. Different people will notice different things.

And besides, if there was just one gospel (a 'true gospel"), believers whould not ask anyway.

So the church encourages ignorance, and unquestioned belief? If this were so, why do bible studies?

They all agree on the virgin birth, cucifiction, and ressurection, which are basically the things that matter to Christians

Precisely the point I was trying to say. Thank you gepap.

[Imran Siddiqui]

So the church encourages ignorance, and unquestioned belief?

You SOOOO left yourself open for a snarky remark with this .