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Originally posted by skywalker
How is that kid supposed to learn values?
From his family
SOMEONE has to teach values to the kid. Why not expose children to many beliefs, and let them CHOOSE?
You believe very young children can make an informed choice. I don't. And remember, I'm not speaking about highschoolers here, I'm speaking about 4-7 year olds.
so high schools will allow u to wear religious garments because they are not of the proper age?
Originally posted by yavoon
so high schools will allow u to wear religious garments because they are not of the proper age?
With regard to proselytism, yes, I think highschoolers can take it, and thus see religious garments.
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I've seen nothing that changes my original opinion from the last thread on the topic of the French aversion to free speech.
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Originally posted by yavoon
but the french gov't disagrees?
Yes. As you may know, I agree with my government about as much as Sava agrees with Bush
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
French aversion to free speech.
The French haven't enshrined free speech the same way as Americans, and as a result, there are some things you aren't free to say, such as calls for racist hatred, and calls for murder.
Many French racists look at the US as an example. Never mind that, at the same time, they want to ban left-wing newspapers and Marxist books from libraries.
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Originally posted by Spiffor
Many French racists look at the US as an example.
I imagine some of your religious population is doing the same at the moment as well.
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Sure, we've had lots of rows in the 100 years of the Entente Cordiale... but doesn't democracy thrive on debate and different ideas?
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Kids shouldn't be educated ANY religious beliefs at all. Noone should talk to them about god, at all, until they're grown up, and can make those decisions themselves.
Noone should talk to them about god, at all, until they're grown up, and can make those decisions themselves.
Why?
Religious people will disagree because they believe faith is an important part of morals, and that to really teach their child how to live a moral life, requires knowledge of religion.
Those without religion will not teach their children religion, because they believe the opposite.
Why not let each parent exercise their right to teach their children how to live a moral life, as they see fit?
How would you enforce such a ban on parents teaching their children about religion? Good luck.
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Why don't the French just ban religion? It would be fairly clear where they stand then.
As it is, they're just banning religious children.
Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
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Kids shouldn't be educated ANY religious beliefs at all. Noone should talk to them about god, at all, until they're grown up, and can make those decisions themselves.
By that logic, kids shouldn't be educated any moral beliefs at all, until they are grown up and can make those decisions by themselves.
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