What do you guys think of the Fwench, what are they for, and are they being out of order in insisting that all religious paraphanalia be banned from schools?
My opinion, no. Don't get me wrong, afterall we all know what the Fwench are like, and then there was that time they voted for neo-facists (probably just to be rude, some say). Their willingness to be smug and piss people off is astounding.
But then they made up for some of that unpleasantness in my book by flicking Bush the one fingered salute over Iraq, and their motivations for doing so were entirely altruistic, anti-imperialistic and good. (If you're gonna sum up millions of people with the use of a misspelt name and some serious generalizing, you may as well be fickle about it).
I personally wouldn't want to put up with peoples religious-detritus cluttering up my kids school if I was a parent, and I don't think Faithful people really dig an intergrated multicultural society anyway, because by definition they are all narrow-minded judgmental intolerants who think everybody else is going to the lake of fire to burn for eternity when they die, whereas Faithful people are all personal friends with The Man, who happens to share their many political opinions and hang-ups.
Cecularism on the other hand is far more accomodating, even Saddam Hussein's Iraq allowed women the freedom to become doctors and lawyers (shame about all the raping)
Anyway my point is that the Fwench say that cecularism is inherent to the values of their constitution, and that if you want to live in Fwance you should embrace their cecularist ways, and I agree. I havent heard christians or jews complaing about not being able to wear religious stuff in schools, but many muslims are. I think that's unreasonable and would be tempted to say to them 'if you don't like it you should go live in a muslim theocracy, and if you came from a muslim theocracy before, and went to live in Fwance, perhaps you should ask why you did so, what kind of things make living in Fwance (with Fwench people) better then living in a theocracy?'
But saying that wouldn't be fair to muslim women who were born in Fwance, and who see the hijab as part of who they are.
So to sum up- I have no meaningful answers beyond the generic mindless bigotry that I show towards the Fwench and the Religious alike.
My opinion, no. Don't get me wrong, afterall we all know what the Fwench are like, and then there was that time they voted for neo-facists (probably just to be rude, some say). Their willingness to be smug and piss people off is astounding.
But then they made up for some of that unpleasantness in my book by flicking Bush the one fingered salute over Iraq, and their motivations for doing so were entirely altruistic, anti-imperialistic and good. (If you're gonna sum up millions of people with the use of a misspelt name and some serious generalizing, you may as well be fickle about it).
I personally wouldn't want to put up with peoples religious-detritus cluttering up my kids school if I was a parent, and I don't think Faithful people really dig an intergrated multicultural society anyway, because by definition they are all narrow-minded judgmental intolerants who think everybody else is going to the lake of fire to burn for eternity when they die, whereas Faithful people are all personal friends with The Man, who happens to share their many political opinions and hang-ups.
Cecularism on the other hand is far more accomodating, even Saddam Hussein's Iraq allowed women the freedom to become doctors and lawyers (shame about all the raping)
Anyway my point is that the Fwench say that cecularism is inherent to the values of their constitution, and that if you want to live in Fwance you should embrace their cecularist ways, and I agree. I havent heard christians or jews complaing about not being able to wear religious stuff in schools, but many muslims are. I think that's unreasonable and would be tempted to say to them 'if you don't like it you should go live in a muslim theocracy, and if you came from a muslim theocracy before, and went to live in Fwance, perhaps you should ask why you did so, what kind of things make living in Fwance (with Fwench people) better then living in a theocracy?'
But saying that wouldn't be fair to muslim women who were born in Fwance, and who see the hijab as part of who they are.
So to sum up- I have no meaningful answers beyond the generic mindless bigotry that I show towards the Fwench and the Religious alike.
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