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  • We found the agreement there at last.

    I think the State should not forbid these beliefs (I support an absolute and exception-less freedom of thought), but it should:

    1. forbid the illegal consequences on acting of such beliefs: raping a girl is illegal, no matter what your beliefs on the nature of women are (in rape cases, quite a few people argue "the way she was clothed, she asked for it" )

    2. Do everything it can to make these beliefs as unappealing as possible, like destroying the geographic concentration that leads to this counter-culture, and making the "ordinary" French identity actually appealing, both job-wise and identity-wise. The day the French society accepts the idea that it doesn't lose anything with its important Muslim minority is the day we'll progress dramatically.
    "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
    "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
    "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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    • Wrt #2, I'm not sure we are in full agreement. It depends on what sort of things the government would do. It shouldn't make those beliefs unappealing in the sense of removing equal protection under the law, or giving benefits to those with different beliefs.

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      • Originally posted by skywalker
        Wrt #2, I'm not sure we are in full agreement. It depends on what sort of things the government would do. It shouldn't make those beliefs unappealing in the sense of removing equal protection under the law, or giving benefits to those with different beliefs.
        Indeed. I was more thinking of giving as many chances in life to every person willing to play ball, no matter where and whom he comes from.
        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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        • Originally posted by Akka

          And of course, a Pakistani newspaper is just sooo unbiased when it comes to religion

          Yes, our holidays are the christian ones. Not because we're religious, but simply because, until a recent date, we had about 100 % of christians in the country.
          It's a cultural habit. At first, before separation between Church and State, the holidays were religious. After, it was just because we were used to it.

          And in fact, there is no Jewish holidays in France. Tough luck. Better chose more wisely your sources next time.

          There is no christian crosses in school since more than one century.

          This shows that you just don't know anything about the subject, and you just spill your pre-formatted endoctrinated speech.

          I personnally think you're an ignorant cretin without the slightest clue, and guess what, I've much more chances to be right than you.
          Well this lettor was come than frenchman printed in the lettor to the editor section of the Pakistian newpaper.It you want than seclor school and state then there cannot be any religious holiday at all simple as that. I hear the french now want to ban man from wearing bead, well if any of your fascat French police try to cut my bead will be a dead fascat french police. I cannot wait untril french school official are accue of rape by muslim girls for forcely removeing the headscraf, I personality belive the french girl over your french school official anyday. It seem you donot know than dumbass law when you see one, unless you are a racist which make you than human right and civil right criminal.
          How do you plea on being than racist.
          By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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          • Originally posted by skywalker
            Akka - CBH also believes aliens are controlling the US (I'm not joking). AFAIK only Ned ever bothers to argue with him (about anything). The rest of us just sit back and watch - it's good comedy.
            In 1947 in Roswell NM alien spacecraft landed.
            By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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            • Also in 1934 than alien spacecraft crach land in Germany
              the Nazie recover the craft than study it.
              By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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              • To be fair, the commission that "thought" about the anti-headscarf law advocated the introduction of a Jewish holiday and a Muslim holiday is the school's schedule.

                I personally think we should scrap Christian holidays altogether, and replace them by purely Republican ones.
                "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                • Originally posted by skywalker
                  Akka - CBH also believes aliens are controlling the US (I'm not joking). AFAIK only Ned ever bothers to argue with him (about anything). The rest of us just sit back and watch - it's good comedy.
                  I never said Alien control the US government. There are alien sent by God to save mankind from itself, they are estable the best Intelligence grathing network on this planet. We are haveing so much fun laughting at the mess America is makeing in Iraq.

                  That Intelligence Network gave Pakistian the invasion plan of India when India sent other 1 million man to the Pakistian boarder for over than year before they withdraw they man. There was than key outpost India want to captive before they invade Pakistian. They sent 1200 special forcemen to capute it, the plan reveal where the helicopty would drop then off. In the first minute of landing heavy mortor and machinegun fires killed 800 of the attacker. When India sent some jetfighter to aid in the attack Pakistian Jet Fighter show up with groundbase SAM readry to fire. The India PM called off the Invadeing plan as the element of surpire was lost, Nuclear War between Pakistian and India was avoid which would have lead to glodal nuclear war.
                  By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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                  • And it were those Aliens that gave Pakistan a training ground on the other side of the moon (or was it a planet out of the Sol system?) to try their nuclear weapons.
                    "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                    "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                    "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                    • Originally posted by Spiffor
                      And it were those Aliens that gave Pakistan a training ground on the other side of the moon (or was it a planet out of the Sol system?) to try their nuclear weapons.
                      Now the NAS believe that Iran and North Korea have the number of Nuclear weapon I stated. First this technology is old allready an it any nation or originate want to build nuclear weapon they will built then no matter what the rest of the world think. It is impossible to stop technologry from speading.
                      By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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                      • But I clearly remember a thread where you were talking about Pakistanis military experiments somewhere in Space. So, since I can't remember the specifics, could you please remind me what the Pakistanis did experiment on in Space, and where ?
                        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                        • Originally posted by Spiffor
                          But I clearly remember a thread where you were talking about Pakistanis military experiments somewhere in Space. So, since I can't remember the specifics, could you please remind me what the Pakistanis did experiment on in Space, and where ?
                          The Intelligence grathing network I talk about detect that Iran and Pakistan have delvolp nuclear weapon in 1987 for very good reason, India have nuclear weapon allready than was alway treathen Pakistan with then and Iran was fighting than long war with America proxy Iraq, America gave Iraq Nerve and Mustard gases to use against Iran and America encought Iraq to use then when they start to use then on their own people and on Iran and we lower the threadhold on use of chemical weapon in general and our recontly effect to ruin than thready ban the manufactoring of all chemical weapons and bio weapon with than inspection regine our bio tech companies didnot like. This Intelligence network have no bias like America show like it allright for Israel to have nuclear weapon and nerve gas agent but not Iran to have nuclear weapon or for India to have nuclear weapons but not Pakistan to have nuclear weapons. The alien Government with represent from Iran and Pakistan visit the alien testing planets where nothing live anyway we tested they nuclear weapon for then. Iran feeling threaten by Israel nuclear weapons so they want they own in case Israel decide to use their own they would be surpise that Iran have then too.

                          The USSR gave Iran poison gases to use back on Iraq as the USSR was worry about allowing Iraq to get away with their use of poison gases without it being use back on then also.
                          By the year 2100 AD over half of the world population will be follower of Islam.

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                          • Originally posted by Spiffor
                            To be fair, the commission that "thought" about the anti-headscarf law advocated the introduction of a Jewish holiday and a Muslim holiday is the school's schedule.

                            I personally think we should scrap Christian holidays altogether, and replace them by purely Republican ones.
                            Not with so many christians. It's just not practical - you have to give time off from school for religious holidays (I assume it's the same as in the US) and so you'd be missing the majority of the school (even with all of the immigration, native French still outnumber immigrants, right?)

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                            • Thank you Charles for reminding me. So, that was the aliens testing Iranian and Pakistanis nuclear weapons on one of their test planets, whereas Iranian and Pakistanis officials merely visited the test area from time to time.

                              Thanks for sharing this exclusive information
                              "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                              "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                              "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                              • You can read that?
                                One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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